Implicating gharial → crocodilian
Link to implication

Reason:

Surprised this hasn't been implicated to crocodilian yet despite being one, considering the caiman tag (15) is implicated yet is less used than the gharial tag (24).

Anywho that aside: gharial are a species of crocodilian, plain and simple.

Related reptilian/scalie species implications

• aquatic dragon → marine⁴
• basilisk (lizard) → lizard (also suggested in forum #233706)
• collared lizard → lizard (also suggested in forum #233706)
• feathered serpent → feathers and snake⁶
• feathered dinosaur → feathers and dinosaur
• gila monster → lizard (also suggested in forum #233706)
• leopard gecko → gecko (also suggested in forum #238484)
• thorny devil → lizard (also suggested in forum #226946)
• viper → snake (also suggested in forum #213667) Now implied!

Related reptilian/scalie species aliases

• frill-necked lizard → frilled lizard¹
• lizardwoman → lizardman²
• lizardgirl → lizardman
• lizardfolk → lizardman¹ (discussed of in forum #225446, seems to have been dropped and not unanimously agreed or disagreed upon so I'm bringing it back for discussion)
• lizardmen → lizardman³
• basilisk → basilisk (disambiguation)⁵

Related reptilian/scalie species de-implications

• Deimplicate bearded dragon from reptile, implicate to lizard instead.⁷

¹ Same creature, just a different name. Aliasing to most used common name on the site.

² Not super commonly used; manually fixed these tags myself. However, they would fit with the non-gendered species standards so I suggested them anyways.

³ Complying to singular species name standards.

⁴ Aquatic is already aliased to marine, so I don't see why aquatic dragons shouldn't be implicated to marine as well as dragon, especially when the marine wiki even mentions aquatic dragons being associated with the marine tag.

⁵ Would help eliminate species confusion between the legendary creature and the actual basilisk lizard. Wiki would state to tag as either basilisk (lizard) for the animal or "basalisk (myth)", as of now a nonexistant tag, for the mythical creature.

⁶ This is to mirror feathered dragon, which implies feathers and dragon.

⁷ Also it wouldn't hurt to explicitly state the difference between bearded dragons and furred dragons in the wiki page, as many people seem to be making this mistake from what I've seen despite one being a lizard and the other being dragons with fur.

Will update this post if I find more

Thoughts?

DiceLovesBeingBlown said:

Implicating:

• gharial → crocodilian.

+1. In fact, I believed it already had been implicated.

DiceLovesBeingBlown said:

Implicating:

• aquatic_dragon → marine.

+1. Seems appropriate.

Also, I believe we should unaliase 'sea_dragon' from 'aquatic_dragon' and disambiguate the former, since it also is the name of a fish (leafy_seadragon).

DiceLovesBeingBlown said:

Implicating:

• feathered_serpent → feathers.
• feathered_serpent → snake.

-1. Feathered serpents already have a specific name: 'quetzalcoatl' (term which means 'feathered serpent' and is derived from aztec mythology).

So the suggestions probably should be changed to:

Implicating:

• quetzalcoatl → snake.
• quetzalcoatl → feathers.

Aliasing:

• feathered_serpent → quetzalcoatl.

DiceLovesBeingBlown said:

Implicating:

• feathered_dinosaur → feathers.
• feathered_dinosaur → dinosaur.

+1 to both. Seem logical.

The former already was suggested at forum #235011.

DiceLovesBeingBlown said:

Aliasing:

• frill-necked lizard → frilled lizard.

+1. Seems accurate.

DiceLovesBeingBlown said:

Aliasing:

• lizardwoman → lizardman.
• lizardgirl → lizardman.
• lizardfolk → lizardman.
• lizardmen → lizardman

-1. I keep what I said at forum #225527, however if we maintain the tag the preference probably would be for 'lizardfolk', since it is a unisex term and we opt for using those.

Also any aliases involving 'lizardwoman', 'lizaedmen', 'lizardgirl' or any other gender/number variation are unneeded given how low tagged those are (0-1 posts).

DiceLovesBeingBlown said:

Aliasing:

• basilisk → basilisk_(disambiguation).

+1. Is really ambiguous; In fact, I do believe we should have three tags for basilisks:

One for the actual lizard (we already have this one).

One for the mythological creature in its snake form.

One for the mythological creature in its lizard-like form.

DiceLovesBeingBlown said:

Deimplicate bearded dragon from reptile, implicate to lizard instead..

+1. Makes sense since they are lizards.

-/-/-/--/-

You forgot mentioning the overwhelming majority of the reptile-related suggestions of forum #235011.

¹ The "to be aliased tag" has ≤ 1 posts.

O16 said:
-1. I keep what I said at forum #225527, however if we keep the tag the preference probably would be for 'lizardfolk', since it is a unisex term and we opt for using those.

Also any aliases involving 'lizardwoman', 'lizaedmen', 'lizardgirl' or any other gender/number variation are unneeded given how low tagged those are (0-1 posts).

And I stand by what I said at forum #225462 when I pointed out that the "man" part of lizardman doesn't refer to the male ones specifically.

Edit: I think the lizard_girl tag is a character name. All five images show the same character.

DiceLovesBeingBlown said:

• lizardgirl → lizardman

*girl tags are usually monster girls. So that's not the best place for it. Aliasing it to animal_humanoid would be safer, but it'd be best to leave it be. It's not tagged often enough to worry about, any new ones can be manually sorted.

Also, plus one for lizardfolk as the main tag. That'll help differentiate it from characters called Lizardman, such as the one from Soul Calibur.

Though the whole tag is iffy. It's hard to tell them apart from generic anthro lizards.

Genjar said:
That'll help differentiate it from characters called Lizardman, such as the one from Soul Calibur.

That one has a name.

BlueDingo said:
That one has a name.

Yes. Like I said, it'd help differentiate the tags. That one is often tagged as 'lizardman', because it's the better known name. If the tag were lizardfolk, it'd be easier for those taggers to notice that it's not the correct tag to use.

^{There's also some comic characters (mostly from old superhero comics) named Lizardman, but most are unlikely to ever be posted here.}

BlueDingo said:
And I stand by what I said at forum #225462 when I pointed out that the "man" part of lizardman doesn't refer to the male ones specifically.

I know that, but:

I) Many possibly don't, and is better to be safe than sorry.

II) This species is called that way as well, so it wouldn't be inacurrate at all.

Genjar said:
Yes. Like I said, it'd help differentiate the tags. That one is often tagged as 'lizardman', because it's the better known name. If the tag were lizardfolk, it'd be easier for those taggers to notice that it's not the correct tag to use.

Then perhaps disambiguating it would be a better option.

lizardman A-> lizardman_(disambiguation)

Tag the Soul Calibur character as 'aeon_calcos'.
Tag any other series-specific characters/species as 'lizardman_(whatever)', or their name(s) if they have one.
Tag the ones that aren't associated with a specific franchise as 'anthro lizard'.

Genjar said:

^{There's also some comic characters (mostly from old superhero comics) named Lizardman, but most are unlikely to ever be posted here.}

^{Are you referring to The Lizard]}

BlueDingo said:
Then perhaps disambiguating it would be a better option.

lizardman A-> lizardman_(disambiguation)

Tag the Soul Calibur character as 'aeon_calcos'.
Tag any other series-specific characters/species as 'lizardman_(whatever)', or their name(s) if they have one.
Tag the ones that aren't associated with a specific franchise as 'anthro lizard'.

Yeah a disembag could work for sure... where the page would redirect to either lizardfolk, specific lizard races/character, and anthro lizards.

Yeah, come to think about it, disambiguation might be the best option.

Lizardman doesn't need to be tagged for generic anthro reptiles, and various distinct species (such as the ones from Warhammer) should have their own tags.

Bumping. Gharial and many other reptilian/scales dont have implications yet, which would be helpful. Minus the whole lizardman debacle (other than maybe giving it a disambig tag, which I'm fine with) and the feathered serpent stuff, I still support my suggestions

DiceLovesBeingBlown said:
Bumping. Gharial and many other reptilian/scales dont have implications yet, which would be helpful. Minus the whole lizardman debacle (other than maybe giving it a disambig tag, which I'm fine with) and the feathered serpent stuff, I still support my suggestions

Bumping this once more! Would be real great for gharial to at least get the crocodilian implication

done what could be

unaliased sea_dragon from aquatic_dragon and instead aliased it to seadragon_(disambiguation) due to the existence of the leafy_seadragon and seadragon_(fish) (common_seadragon and ruby_seadragon, though neither are populated)

dunno about the quetzalcoatl thing because i've always known that to be a specific deity, not just a snake with feathers. maybe that should be a character tag or something instead, with the feathered_serpent serving as the species tag.

Ratte said:
unaliased sea_dragon from aquatic_dragon and instead aliased it to seadragon_(disambiguation) due to the existence of the leafy_seadragon and seadragon_(fish) (common_seadragon and ruby_seadragon, though neither are populated)

Yeah I getcha; could be easy to get those tags mixed up with the common names of the sea dragons, definitely see why that was aliased.

Ratte said:
dunno about the quetzalcoatl thing because i've always known that to be a specific deity, not just a snake with feathers. maybe that should be a character tag or something instead, with the feathered_serpent serving as the species tag.

Yeah that'd probably work better in the long run tbh

Ratte said:
dunno about the quetzalcoatl thing because i've always known that to be a specific deity, not just a snake with feathers. maybe that should be a character tag or something instead, with the feathered_serpent serving as the species tag.

Yeah, Quetzalcoatl is the deity. More of a character tag than species, despite the wiki. And a lot of the posts feature characters named Quetzalcoatl, instead of the deity. Needs disambiguation.

Feathered snakes are usually called coatl (thanks to Dungeons & Dragons), and that's how I remember them being tagged here. But that's empty, probably moved to feathered_serpent? Hard to tell since the tag history search hasn't worked in a long time.

Edit: Oh right. It's spelled couatl, dunno where the extra u comes from.

alias feathered_serpent to couatl or the other way around? i'm fine with either. i'll include coatl, too.

Ratte said:
alias feathered_serpent to couatl or the other way around? i'm fine with either. i'll include coatl, too.

I'd alias them to feathered_serpent, personally. It's the tag that's easiest to understand at first glance, imho

Couatl is a specific type (feral snake, feathered wings), and a lot of feathered serpents don't fit that type. So if it has to be aliased, then couatl -> feathered_serpent.

(Alternately, implicated and used as a subtag for that specific bodytype - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Couatl)

i'll just roll with an implication

Genjar said:
Yeah, Quetzalcoatl is the deity. [...] Feathered snakes are usually called coatl (thanks to Dungeons & Dragons)

I guess that makes it the quetezential one of the lot.

_{^{Ow, I think I pulled a hammy on that stretch.[/sub][/sup]}}

Edit: Oh right. It's spelled couatl, dunno where the extra u comes from.

UK English, maybe?