Topic: Tag Alias: quad -> feral

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Furrin_Gok said:
Alias to quadruped instead. There are non-ferals that have four legs.

but there is still the issue that it gets tagged on krogan that are bipedal anthros since their nuts are referred as quad

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siikaprinssi said:
but there is still the issue that it gets tagged on krogan that are bipedal anthros since their nuts are referred as quad

Those users are tagging things wrong, as that should be tagged as 4_balls instead.

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quad should be disambiguated as it is the short hand for many things;

-quadriceps(leg muscles)
-short hand for both 4 pecs or 4 balls
-a quadruped
-type of vehicle or steering
-squared plaza
-type of move or pose in figure skating
-type of skating shoe
-as well as a potential error from people forgetting to add the "s" for quads or typing quad_breasts and the like with a space instead of a underscore.

In regards to the reasoning made for the alias, not all ferals are quadruped, so a alias would not be proper.

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Darou said:

In regards to the reasoning made for the alias, not all ferals are quadruped, so a alias would not be proper.

You make a good case for disambiguation over an alias, except for this part. This part is wrong.

The important part isn't whether all ferals are quadrupeds, but whether all quadrupeds are ferals. You got it backwards.

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Clawdragons said:
You make a good case for disambiguation over an alias, except for this part. This part is wrong.

The important part isn't whether all ferals are quadrupeds, but whether all quadrupeds are ferals. You got it backwards.

While I get your reasoning, not all quadrupeds are ferals. This is most easily seen in taurs, which usually are quadrupedal but are usually not considered feral

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DiceLovesBeingBlown said:
While I get your reasoning, not all quadrupeds are ferals. This is most easily seen in taurs, which usually are quadrupedal but are usually not considered feral

I wasn't saying that all quadrupeds are ferals, I'm just saying that's the relevant question to ask.

I wasn't making any statement on the alias one way or another (except supporting a disambiguation, I suppose), I was just pointing out that Darou was thinking about aliases wrong.

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Clawdragons said:
I wasn't saying that all quadrupeds are ferals, I'm just saying that's the relevant question to ask.

I wasn't making any statement on the alias one way or another (except supporting a disambiguation, I suppose), I was just pointing out that Darou was thinking about aliases wrong.

Ahhh gotcha, my apologies.

Anyways regarding op, either a disambiguation or an alias to quadrupedal would be best, preferably the former since this gets confusing for quite a few people

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Clawdragons said:
The important part isn't whether all ferals are quadrupeds, but whether all quadrupeds are ferals. You got it backwards.

Not really the alias would in fact make feral synonymous to being quadruped and quadruped synonymous to feral...

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Darou said:
Not really the alias would in fact make feral synonymous to being quadruped and quadruped synonymous to feral...

That's not what an alias is.

Let me try to explain it this way. Let's say that someone created an overly specific tag.

male_feral_penetrating_female_anthro

This is far too specific. We don't want tags like that. So we are going to get rid of it.

So, we have three options:

We can try to manually clean it up, but in that case there's nothing to prevent people from adding it to posts again, and it's also a lot of manual work that is unnecessary.

We could invalidate the tag. This would get rid of the tag, and prevent it from being used again, but would still require a bunch of manual work to clean up all the invalid_tag tags that appeared on posts.

Or, we could alias it to something else. In this case, we have several options. We could, for instance, alias it to feral_penetrating, or male/female, or anthro_on_feral, or others. Let's pick anthro_on_feral, for the rest of this demonstration.

This does NOT mean that the tags are synonymous. It means that male_feral_penetrating_female_anthro is an overly specific subset of anthro_on_feral. Since it is a subset, aliasing it to the superset anthro_on_feral does not result in any mistags.

Aliasing one tag to another is not a declaration that they are synonymous, but can instead be a practical way to get rid of tags without causing a bunch of extra work.

If you don't believe me, I can prove it.

https://e621.net/wiki/show/male

Please take a look at the various things aliased to male. I'll also include them here:

Wiki article for male says:

The following tags are aliased to this tag: m, m/solo, boi, 2guys, 3guys, 4guys, guy, 5guys, boy, man, boys, males, men, 1boy, multiple_males, 1guy, male/solo, male_solo, 3boys, 2boys, multiple_guys, multiple_boys, male_only, guys, solo_male, bishonen, msolo, gen:male, 1_boy, four_boys, one_boy, three_boys, 2_boys, 3_boys, 4_boys, 4boys, two_boys, four_guys, one_guy, three_guys, two_guys, 2_guys, 3_guys, 4_guys, 1_guys, dark-skinned_male, twink

Note how things like dark-skinned_male and male_solo are aliased to male. This is proof that our usage of aliases does not require the two terms to be synonyms.

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Clawdragons said:
[...]This does NOT mean that the tags are synonymous. It means that male_feral_penetrating_female_anthro is an overly specific subset of anthro_on_feral. Since it is a subset, aliasing it to the superset anthro_on_feral does not result in any mistags.

Aliasing one tag to another is not a declaration that they are synonymous, but can instead be a practical way to get rid of tags without causing a bunch of extra work.

If you don't believe me, I can prove it.

https://e621.net/wiki/show/male

Please take a look at the various things aliased to male. I'll also include them here:

Note how things like dark-skinned_male and male_solo are aliased to male. This is proof that our usage of aliases does not require the two terms to be synonyms.

i believe you are mistaken clawdragon, aliases do not define subsets of content, that is what implications do.

Aliases cover redundancies, traits that arnt quantifiable under TWYS and practical synonyms.

I say this will be made synonymous because quad attached to feral, feral will come to mean that all ferals are quadrupeds. On its own quad has many meanings but joined in anyway to the feral tag most people will understand it to mean that any and all ferals are quadruped when they see this attached to the feral tag's alias list.

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DiceLovesBeingBlown said:
Ahhh gotcha, my apologies.

Anyways regarding op, either a disambiguation or an alias to quadrupedal would be best, preferably the former since this gets confusing for quite a few people

Either way sounds good to me!

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