Implicating fire_breathing → breath_weapon
Link to implication

Reason:

Because it is.

Also, if desired:

ice_breathing -> Breath_weapon
lightning_breathing -> Breath_weapon

Though those two only have a couple posts each. They could just be aliased away to breath_weapon. Haven't tried to populate them too much yet, just, as I've seen appropriate posts. *shrug*

Basically says in the wiki, +1

Well, I wrote the wikis (minus fire breathing, though I beleive I edited it), haha. So, grain or 12 of salt. :)

-1, especially if the post count is low. Just tag what you think needs tagging.

Implications are out of user control. With this implication in place, image with a character who just happens to breath fire without any intent to harm anyone will be tagged weapon and there will be no way to fix that.

occasionally in cartoons and comics fire breathing is used as visual story telling method to show that the food character just ate was really spicy. i dont think that "breath weapon" would be exactly suitable tag for that

hslugs said:
-1, especially if the post count is low. Just tag what you think needs tagging.

Implications are out of user control. With this implication in place, image with a character who just happens to breath fire without any intent to harm anyone will be tagged weapon and there will be no way to fix that.

*blinks*

Um.

I didn't say that fire_breathing should imply weapon. I said that it should imply breath_weapon. Breath weapon is the term that's been in use since the 70's or 80's to describe 'that magic shit that comes flying out of a dragon's mouth'. A sword is a weapon--a melee_weapon-- regardless of if it's in a hand, in a sheath, or buried in someone's body. A 'breath weapon' is the same idea.

This picture is adorable, and he doesn't wanna hurt anyone, but that's still a breath weapon: post #533322

Also, I think you miss my goal: if all of the _breathing tags imply (or alias to) breath_weapon, then breath weapon has a respectable tag count. If I don't want to see 'boring' pictures of dragons breathing fire, I can search for breath_weapon -fire_breathing. I don't care if ice_breathing or lightning_breathing are seperate tags that exist or not (hence, they could be aliased instead)... What matters to me is that there's a single tag that someone can search for to see a dragon breathing out stuff-besides-air-and-drool. Right now, there's not a blanket tag for that. Except breath_weapon, which is very underused. I'm certainly open to other names or ideas?

I mean, people COULD just search for dragon ice or dragon fire but that means al of the OTHER ice-and-fire breathing critters are missed. also, there are a LOT of false positives, even for dragons.

Also, there's nothing wrong with having implications and aliases. c_c

Commander_Eggplant said:
occasionally in cartoons and comics fire breathing is used as visual story telling method to show that the food character just ate was really spicy. i dont think that "breath weapon" would be exactly suitable tag for that

That's true. though fire_breathing food doesnt' actually have much, and most of those are pretty legit cases of breath weapons. There's one I doubt if it should be tagged fire breathing at all, but past that? I can't find any posts tagged with fire_breathing and a food-related word. But: fair point. :)

SnowWolf said:
I didn't say that fire_breathing should imply weapon.

Ha. If you didn't and it's not there yet, just wait for somebody else to do it.

Implicating breath_weapon → weapon
Link to implication

Reason:
Because breath weapon is a kind of weapon.

That's something that will get approved for sure. Will anyone check if it would make transitive implications meaningless? Will anyone bother looking for transitive implications at all? I mean, I know the answer because I had to request de-implication in a similar case some time ago.

What about humans who use fire breathing for entertainment?

hslugs said:
Ha. If you didn't and it's not there yet, just wait for somebody else to do it.

That's something that will get approved for sure. Will anyone check if it would make transitive implications meaningless? Will anyone bother looking for transitive implications at all? I mean, I know the answer because I had to request de-implication in a similar case some time ago.

Uh... Buddy, just chill out, alright? You seem like you're really wired up right now, and I'm worried about you. Just stop, take a few deep breaths and relax. This is not a big deal. Just a website full of derpy furry porn. It's not worth getting upset over, okay?

I am pretty certain that most of the people I see commenting here in theforums these days would agree that breath weapon --> weapon is pretty damn and would argue against it, and probably heckle anyone who suggested it like the idiot they'd be.

So just... relax. It's not a big deal.

BlueDingo said:
What about humans who use fire breathing for entertainment?

Another fair point, but I'd also argue how do you separate them from the fire breathing dragons? I mean.. there's not a seperate tag for post #930515 post #913274 or post #534473 ... or post #1013995 because that's cute :)

Okay, if we nix fire_breathing -> breath weapon, what do we imply fire_breathing to? elemental_breath? Energy_breathing?

I'd say to just tag everything with appropriate elements, but once you move past 'fire' it can become pretty hard to figure out if someone's breathing out ice or burping up a kamehameha.

SnowWolf said:
Okay, if we nix fire_breathing -> breath weapon, what do we imply fire_breathing to? elemental_breath? Energy_breathing?

elemental_breath might be a better fit since not all of these "breaths" are energy-based (fire and electricity are, but ice?). Then again, they're not all elemental-based either (poison breath comes to mind).

SnowWolf said:
Another fair point, but I'd also argue how do you separate them from the fire breathing dragons? I mean.. there's not a seperate tag for post #930515 post #913274 or post #534473 ... or post #1013995 because that's cute :)

Fire breathing is fire breathing, regardless of who/what is doing it and why. I suppose tagging the specific situations where it's being done would make sorting them a little easier. For example, post #1013995 could arguably be tagged cooking because he's using the fire to roast a marshmallow.

Commander_Eggplant said:
occasionally in cartoons and comics fire breathing is used as visual story telling method to show that the food character just ate was really spicy. i dont think that "breath weapon" would be exactly suitable tag for that

post #1333401

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ignited_breath for mundane fire_breathing?
breath_magic or breath_power for magical or mythical breath? Or breath_user to go with magic_user???