Implicating pokémorph → humanoid
Link to implication

Reason:

Pokemorphs are humanoid pokemon. (If not, we need to then introduce a pokémon_humanoid)

EDIT: The tag implication pokemorph -> humanoid (forum #218180) has been rejected by @bitWolfy.

pokémorph covers anthro. +1 for pokémon_humanoid

-1 they are anthropomorphic pokemon

Not Animal eared/tailed human versions of pokemon>>

BlueDingo said:
pokémorph covers anthro. +1 for pokémon_humanoid

Agree, +1 for pokémon_humanoid

BlueDingo said:
pokémorph covers anthro. +1 for pokémon_humanoid

-1 for pokémorph → humanoid.
pokémorph → anthrofied makes more sense.

+1 for the introdution of "humanoid_pokémon".
However, since already exist pokémon naturally humanoid maybe "humanoidized_pokémon" would be better.

O16 said:
+1 for the introdution of "humanoid_pokémon".
However, since already exist pokémon naturally humanoid maybe "humanoidized_pokémon" would be better.

A pokémon_humanoid would be as humanoidized as a wolf_humanoid. In both cases, it's a humanoid with features of another species, not another species being converted into a humanoid.

Why create humanoidized_pokémon when no other humanoidized_* tags exist? humanoid_pokémon is consistent with preexisting species tags.

In regards to ones like gardevoir, pokémon_humanoid would likely only apply if they have a human skin tone and a form much closer to a human's.

BlueDingo said:
A pokémon_humanoid would be as humanoidized as a wolf_humanoid. In both cases, it's a humanoid with features of another species, not another species being converted into a humanoid.

Why create humanoidized_pokémon when no other humanoidized_* tags exist? humanoid_pokémon is consistent with preexisting species tags.

In regards to ones like gardevoir, pokémon_humanoid would likely only apply if they have a human skin tone and a form much closer to a human's.

All real animals (even those closer to human shape) are "feral", not anthropomorphic, neither humanoid. Some pokémon are humanoid, therefore, " humanoid_pokémon" may be somewhat confusing: I imagine a lot of people tagging any beheeyem or roselia "humanoid_pokémon" only for being humanoid and pokémon.

O16 said:
All real animals (even those closer to human shape) are "feral", not anthropomorphic, neither humanoid. Some pokémon are humanoid, therefore, " humanoid_pokémon" may be somewhat confusing: I imagine a lot of people tagging any beheeyem or roselia "humanoid_pokémon" only for being humanoid and pokémon.

And we will correct them if they do. As long as the definition is sound and specifies how those select situation are meant to be handled, the problem will be manageable.

O16 said:
pokémorph → anthrofied makes more sense.

It used to be like that, but it was so badly mistagged that we got rid of the implication. Now it's tagged for both anthrofied and humanoidized pokemon. I'm not sure if it's even worth keeping, since searching for pokémon humanized and pokémon anthrofied gets better results.

As for the main topic, I suppose we could create a pokémorph_humanoid tag, similar to animal_humanoid. That'd be far less likely to be mistagged than humanoid_pokémon.

Genjar said:
As for the main topic, I suppose we could create a pokémorph_humanoid tag, similar to animal_humanoid. That'd be far less likely to be mistagged than humanoid_pokémon.

We can start populating it here: pokemon humanoidized

We should probably implicate pokémorph_humanoid to animal_humanoid. Not to humanoidized, though, because that will lead to a lot of chartags:0 images gaining the alternate_species tag and we have lots of them to deal with already.

BlueDingo said:
We can start populating it here: pokemon humanoidized

We should probably implicate pokémorph_humanoid to animal_humanoid. Not to humanoidized, though, because that will lead to a lot of chartags:0 images gaining the alternate_species tag and we have lots of them to deal with already.

That's a bad idea all around. How exactly would a bellsprout be an animal humanoid?

Furrin_Gok said:
That's a bad idea all around. How exactly would a bellsprout be an animal humanoid?

Good point.

Similar issue, different franchise.

post #87791 post #522643

BlueDingo said:
post #522643

Not gonna lie... Thought that was a Litwick.

But yeah,

digimon_humanoid i-> humanoid
digimon_humanoid i-> digimon

Before all that, first e621 has to clarify what is anthrofied and what is Pokémorph and since then, there hasn't been a clear concensus, see forum #190545 for my take on the issue.

My take on Pokémorph always has been that for a Pokémon to be Pokémorph, their whole design/proportions have to be changed significantly from the canon one, for instance
post #905417 post #98053

These should be tagged Pokémorph, and Pokémorph should be aliased to Anthrofied.

However, these shouldn't be classified as Pokémorph/Anthrofied
post #1016448 post #1067197
Design and proportions are the same, only big tits have been added, nothing is "morphed"

(I just noticed the same individual who added anthrofied/pokemorph to a ton of Audino pictures now, oh boy)

There are some cases where some Pokémon are anthrofied but not morphed significantly to get the Pokémorph tag, such as
post #902011 post #1033492

The design is the same, Spinda is already anthro, she only got some proportions more similar to a human. This, to my opinion, shouldn't make it a Pokémorph, but I know not a lot of people will agree on that.

The reason why Pokémorph shouldn't be aliased to humanoid however is some of them are simply not humanoid at all even though they're anthrofied/pokemorph, like
post #757523 post #740583

However, these are good examples of Pokémorph being humanoids
post #853995 post #1086388
Basically, plants and already humanoid Pokemon like Gardevoir and Medicham.

However, there should also be a new tag for clearly human-like Pokémorph like
post #840407 post #532157 post #992740

They still have animal features from what I've heard, so they can't have Humanoid. However a tag like pokemon-humanoid would be nice to differentiate the styles : Having human-like hands, heads and eyes for example

The tag implication pokemorph -> humanoid (forum #218180) has been rejected by @bitWolfy.