Topic: [feature] negating an order metatag will search for that order in reverse

Posted under Site Bug Reports & Feature Requests

not really much to the idea. if you wanted to find the least-favorited posts on the site, for some reason, -order:favcount.

for some reason, it looks like you can do this in some fashion with order:id, by doing order:-id? but i tried it with the other metatags, and i don't think it works, unless i'm doing it wrong.

Updated by BlueDingo

So you want order:favcount_asc replaced with order:-favcount?

Updated by anonymous

BlueDingo said:
So you want order:favcount_asc replaced with order:-favcount?

damnit, i knew there must have been something super obvious i was missing. i tried to be cool, but now i just feel like a fool. mods can go ahead and delete this

Updated by anonymous

armin-birdmin said:
damnit, i knew there must have been something super obvious i was missing. i tried to be cool, but now i just feel like a fool.

It's alright. Next time, check the cheatsheet first.

Updated by anonymous

harrybenson said:
damnit, i knew there must have been something super obvious i was missing. i tried to be cool, but now i just feel like a fool. mods can go ahead and delete this

I'm glad they didn't/can't?. I thought it was cool & more consistent than adding _asc to most things except id, which needs _desc, and some things don't support reversing, blah blah, so I implemented it & it's part of the site now. Try -order:id_desc. Cheatsheet will hopefully be updated soon to reflect this.

Looks like you're cool again!

aacafah said:
I'm glad they didn't/can't?. I thought it was cool & more consistent than adding _asc to most things except id, which needs _desc, and some things don't support reversing, blah blah, so I implemented it & it's part of the site now. Try -order:id_desc. Cheatsheet will hopefully be updated soon to reflect this.

Looks like you're cool again!

My man, this topic is 8 years old
Don't necropost topics that have been dead for years

donovan_dmc said:
My man, this topic is 8 years old
Don't necropost topics that have been dead for years

Don't backseat mod.
Aacafah is great, and deserves major kudos for his work on the site.

cinder said:
Don't backseat mod.
Aacafah is great, and deserves major kudos for his work on the site.

Necroposting has been well established to be against the rules, it shouldn't matter who they are

There really isn't anything to add to a topic after 2 or 3 years, let alone 8 years

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donovan_dmc said:
Necroposting has been well established to be against the rules, it shouldn't matter who they are

There really isn't anything to add to a topic after 2 or 3 years, let alone 8 years

we should probably just have a collective thread for discussing anything relevent from normal wednesday updates so that necroing a thread like this wouldn't be necessary.

dba_afish said:
we should probably just have a collective thread for discussing anything relevent from normal wednesday updates so that necroing a thread like this wouldn't be necessary.

I mean that's what the Discord is for, right?

dba_afish said:
we should probably just have a collective thread for discussing anything relevent from normal wednesday updates so that necroing a thread like this wouldn't be necessary.

We had devlogs for a bit but we haven't had one in months

nin10dope said:
I mean that's what the Discord is for, right?

Not really, plus the forums already contain a small minority of the userbase, and the discord is even smaller than that

nin10dope said:
I mean that's what the Discord is for, right?

Discord has the problem of being Discord, it's instant messaging, so it's active. even though the messages stick around it's still not as, like, static as a forum thread. a forum post can be big, 50k characters long, it's got DText and it sticks around on the thread until the next page hits, and the thread sticks around on the front page untill it gets bumped past the bottom of the first page.

Discord is kinda better for keeping abreast of an active situation, especially ones that restrict the use of the site like the Dec1 mass spamming and the bug that caused server problems a few weeks ago, it's not as good at having slower-paced long-term discussions.

the forums are also totally surface web, you don't even need an e6 account to see them. Discord not so much.

donovan_dmc said:
My man, this topic is 8 years old
Don't necropost topics that have been dead for years

I typically wouldn't have done so. I made an exception in this case b/c

  • The requested feature was added to the site
  • There was no expectation that it would have been added from the prior end state of the conversation
  • There were only 2 people who would have been likely to have been notified, so it would be minimally irritating
  • This post is the only relevant one to the discussion & is where the impetus for the feature came from

I have revived posts after a requested feature was added before (specifically grouped search queries), but I decided against reviving every single one of the multitude I referenced in my PR & only updated a few of the more recently updated ones, & some people did express gratitude of the update in those cases. If that's generally considered bad form, I'll absolutely limit or cease this behavior.

donovan_dmc said:
Necroposting has been well established to be against the rules, it shouldn't matter who they are

I would agree that I'd feel uncomfortable getting a pass for something that others get punished for; that being said, I'd argue necroposting in and of itself hasn't been clearly banned. The code of conduct says, with my added emphasis:

Do not excessively post in old threads without adding anything to the discussion.

That's not a blanket ban on necroposting. As for my conduct, I'd say I do not do this excessively in general (though if the consensus is that my prior examples are also verboten, I'd understand the disagreement and act accordingly), and as for this case in particular, a single post in the thread is definitely not excessive.
The rule is clearly meant to avoid old topics getting pushed to the top when nothing new would warrant discussion, arguably with a side benefit of not pinging people who are subscribed to the thread without reason. You seem to agree, adding:

donovan_dmc said:
There really isn't anything to add to a topic after 2 or 3 years, let alone 8 years

In the general case, I'd argue that, although rare in practice, you can add to a topic after a long time, especially if certain conditions of the time no longer hold true. More specifically, I'd argue "the thing you wanted happened" is adding to the discussion, albeit as the capstone that ends it; especially since at the time, without actively trying it yourself or looking at the source code, you wouldn't have known it was added. This isn't a useless +1 like this. Though again, I'm open to critique; I just don't see the problem in this case.

Wholly unrelated, but

cinder said:
Aacafah is great, and deserves major kudos for his work on the site.

nin10dope said:
Agreed

post #2279596 Thank you <3