Was this brought up somewhere else already?

All the Family/Sub-family tags like:

• arthropod_humanoid
• canine_humanoid
• equine_humanoid
• feline_humanoid

etc

Should they:

• 1. Exist
• 2. Be implicated from the species humanoid tags?

eg

1. wolf_humanoid i-> canine_humanoid

(canine_humanoid i-> animal_humanoid)

Thoughts?

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By the way, this is marginally related to forum #216888 - Tagging Pokémon

wolf_humanoid I→ canine_humanoid makes more sense than wolf_humanoid I→ wolf does. I'm pretty sure people searching for wolves don't want to find things that look almost entirely human.

+1 to wolf_humanoid I→ canine_humanoid I→ animal_humanoid

I suggest removing wolf_humanoid I→ wolf immediately afterward.

BlueDingo said:

Hm, those are some really good points

I wonder if the generic species terms (wolf, dog, cat, horse etc) should be either:

a. treated as the widest catchall for all the bodytypes (anthro, feral, humanoid etc), or

b. strictly treat them as the 'IRL' equivalent (aka feral animals only)

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The first option seems like it'll cause the least complications, with the most mileage, IMO.
But that really depends on people's expectations for a tag's content

I draw the line at whether it resembles an animal with human bits or a human with animal bits. Animal for the former, humanoid for the latter.

post #1088929 <- animal vs. humanoid -> post #1062858

The animal should get the wolf tag, the humanoid should not.

A somewhat related question: Why do we use cow_humanoid instead of cattle_humanoid? I thought we were trying to avoid using gendered term whenever possible, cow being a female term.

BlueDingo said:
A somewhat related question: Why do we use cow_humanoid instead of cattle_humanoid? I thought we were trying to avoid using gendered term whenever possible, cow being a female term.

Probably because "cow" is more commonly recognized as referring to that particular bunch of bovines than "cattle". Even the Wikipedia entry on cattle says "colloquially cow" right at the start.

Accurate? Nope, as you and Wikipedia note. But some times "accurate" isn't enough of a reason.

Partial list of implications (+ pre-existing ones to remove)

canine_humanoid -> animal_humanoid
feline_humanoid -> animal_humanoid
rodent_humanoid -> animal_humanoid

dog_humanoid -> canine_humanoid (-dog -animal_humanoid)
fox_humanoid -> canine_humanoid (-fox -animal_humanoid)
wolf_humanoid -> canine_humanoid (-wolf -animal_humanoid)

cat_humanoid -> feline_humanoid (-feline -animal_humanoid)
tiger_humanoid -> feline_humanoid (-tiger -animal_humanoid)

mouse_humanoid -> rodent_humanoid (-mouse -animal_humanoid)
squirrel_humanoid -> rodent_humanoid (-squirrel -animal_humanoid)

Implication tree based on above list:

• animal_humanoid
• canine_humanoid
• dog_humanoid
• fox_humanoid
• wolf_humanoid
• feline_humanoid
• cat_humanoid
• tiger_humanoid
• rodent_humanoid
• mouse_humanoid
• squirrel_humanoid