I've tried to tag a certain character who's species could only be described as "Cartoon Character" as Species:Toon yet it was changed to "Toony" as a general tag. Shouldn't we have a species tag for Toon? As in a character who is meta from a cartoon they appear in and are referred to AS a Cartoon Character. Characters fitting into this tag would include Roger Rabbit, and Penny from Go! Go! Hypergrind, as they are both Cartoon Characters referred in their canon as just Cartoon Characters or real things referred to as "Toons" (The entirety of Toon Town would fit under this) aside from canon characters such as Mickey, who is in canon to himself, not a Toon, but a Mouse. So Mickey, Bugs, and Felix would be a Mouse, Rabbit, and Cat respectively and not count as Toons. So TLDR, would it be possible to make a species tag FOR specifically Toon characters, that tag being "Toon"

Are the Warners their own species I guess is kinda the question? Some would argue yes.

GDelscribe said:
Are the Warners their own species I guess is kinda the question? Some would argue yes.

Well, they never specify the species in the show I believe, so I think it would constitute toon, as they were drawn in an animation studio canonically.

Modstin said:
I've tried to tag a certain character who's species could only be described as "Cartoon Character" as Species:Toon yet it was changed to "Toony" as a general tag. Shouldn't we have a species tag for Toon? As in a character who is meta from a cartoon they appear in and are referred to AS a Cartoon Character. Characters fitting into this tag would include Roger Rabbit, and Penny from Go! Go! Hypergrind, as they are both Cartoon Characters referred in their canon as just Cartoon Characters or real things referred to as "Toons" (The entirety of Toon Town would fit under this) aside from canon characters such as Mickey, who is in canon to himself, not a Toon, but a Mouse. So Mickey, Bugs, and Felix would be a Mouse, Rabbit, and Cat respectively and not count as Toons. So TLDR, would it be possible to make a species tag FOR specifically Toon characters, that tag being "Toon"

Just noting that lore and/or canon are largely ignored for tagging proposes.

Also how would you define a toon characters outside of just being a art style of the artist(writing the wiki so it is destinglishable from generalized toony tag)?
Most are identifiable as to what species they are derived from, and those that arnt are ether are lumped with humanoid, monster or unknown_species. characters like roger rabbit(a anthropomorphic rabbit drawn in a toony art style) or your penny(a anthropomorphic cat) from Go! Go! Hypergrind are already perfectly covered by the existing system of animal species and art style by the way.

R'D said:
Just noting that lore and/or canon are largely ignored for tagging proposes.

Also how would you define a toon characters outside of just being a art style of the artist(writing the wiki so it is destinglishable from generalized toony tag)?
Most are identifiable as to what species they are derived from, and those that arnt are ether are lumped with humanoid, monster or unknown_species. characters like roger rabbit(a anthropomorphic rabbit drawn in a toony art style) or your penny(a anthropomorphic cat) from Go! Go! Hypergrind are already perfectly covered by the existing system of animal species and art style by the way.

If humanoid covers it, I suppose it's a mute point then. It would merely be defined by actual canon, though as you said that is mainly ignored. It would just be a basic covering of creatures identified as "toons" beyond just being "human" or a certain animal.
It would be defined as I stated. A character that has canonical meta from itself/it's series as a "Cartoon Character" and is defined as such in its canon. I.E. how Roger Rabbit has "Roger Rabbit" cartoons within the film "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" and is referred to as a "toon" by other characters in the film along with being a rabbit.

Modstin said:
If humanoid covers it, I suppose it's a mute point then. It would merely be defined by actual canon, though as you said that is mainly ignored. It would just be a basic covering of creatures identified as "toons" beyond just being "human" or a certain animal.
It would be defined as I stated. A character that has canonical meta from itself/it's series as a "Cartoon Character" and is defined as such in its canon. I.E. how Roger Rabbit has "Roger Rabbit" cartoons within the film "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" and is referred to as a "toon" by other characters in the film along with being a rabbit.

the reference of toon in those films and cartoons thru i see more as a notion of ethnicity in its use rather then species, think "earthling", a describer of humans in many scifi films regarded as such by non-human life or non-terrestrial humans and often humans themselves in interaction with non-human life call them selves such in many of these films.

R'D said:
the reference of toon in those films and cartoons thru i see more as a notion of ethnicity in its use rather then species, think "earthling", a describer of humans in many scifi films regarded as such by non-human life or non-terrestrial humans and often humans themselves in interaction with non-human life call them selves such in many of these films.

I sadly do not understand the latter portion of your argument, but to the first part I can say that toon is definitely a different species. For instance, in "Go Go Hypergrind" (An old skating game) the characters are referred to as Toons, they live in a cartoon world, and are actors in Cartoons (Specifically Spum-Co. but that's not related) so, I guess it comes down to a matter of opinion, but with such a huge divide between humans and toons in both Roger Rabbit and Hypergrind, wouldn't it make sense to make a singular tag for characters referred to by that specific title?

If you want a general tag to describe this "group" then I'm fine with it. But I'd rather not have it a species tag, they're definitely not a species in any sense of the word. I believe in that the posts under a species tag should have some apparent relation to each other.

The second problem is that it's 100% tag what you know, and hence have a lot of inherent problems, because the only ones who can tag these "Toons" are those initiated with what it means.

I think such a tag would certainly have a use, but I also think that it'd be so subjective what should be tagged as a toon, that the tag would quickly lose said usefulness.

Even "toons" are based on species. The Animaniacs for example look like dogs.