NotMeNotYou said:

Can't say much about the rest but this isn't against organizing one's posts but against the "First!" "Second!" "TL;DR" Spammer and all those people.

Ahhh, ok, I see. It didn't come off that way, but in retrospect that makes complete sense. Thanks :)


NotMeNotYou said:

Can't say much about the rest but this isn't against organizing one's posts but against the "First!" "Second!" "TL;DR" Spammer and all those people.

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Rating: Safe
Score: 10
User: AJ_Fawxe
Date: June 03, 2010

RIP Tealy.


corgi_bread said:
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Rating: Safe
Score: 10
User: AJ_Fawxe
Date: June 03, 2010

RIP Tealy.

I guess it is time to ban you.

So long and thanks for all the fish corgi butts.


bye corgi

EDFDarkAngel1
Former Staff
4 years ago
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Rating: Safe
Score: 22
User: EDFDarkAngel1
Date: September 23, 2014

kkpkkpk said:
If you're an artist (I'm not, but I know people who are) does this include advertising your own commissions? And when I ask this, I mostly mean within the comments section of said artist's own posts. Is this no longer allowed?

Ok lets say my brother or my dad got himself banned, and we all still live in the same house (yeah yeah I know, but I've at least got a job and he's still in college, it's just easier to stay at home). Does this mean that if an administrator decides to check my IP and sees that it matches my newly banned family member's, I'll automatically be banned and be unable to even appeal just because it looks like I might be my dad or my bro on a new account?

This scares me a little. Especially if something like the above were to happen. This is basically saying that if I e-mail admins about my situation and they felt like saying "screw you, too bad" then I'm not even allowed to argue in a place where others who know of similar situations could voice their problems too. If there is corruption among the admins (thank god that doesn't seem to be the case here, but if it were to ever happen) this would just help hide the fact. Still, I see how/why this one is necessary. I'm not arguing against it, and I trust the staff we have as of right now, I'm just voicing my concern.

What all does this entail? And are we allowed to release information about ourselves? For example, if I mention something like the fact that my brother is 19 (lets say that in context this revelation was relevant to something) and then later mention his username, will that get me banned?

The other two bullet points mentioned "real-life". This one does not. Now I understand that we're not to post links to such other websites, but the fact that this one singles out fetishes in general has me worried... we're not eliminating fetish art here are we? And what about links to sources on art? If the source pages are from websites that include these things are we to not link to the source?

Does this mean anti-brony art and the like are now banned? Or just that defending and further bashing are both prohibited? Also are those of us who've using insulting language in the past going to get in trouble for it? Or will disciplinary action only happen to those who commented after the rules are official? Also I'm curious, while it is bad manners to show displeasure for a post (it's better to just blacklist and move on!), would making a comment like "I don't like scat, it's so gross" on a scat post count as insulting?

I have a lot of questions regarding this one. Does this make "JESUS! I wasn't expecting THAT to happen!" comments illegal? What about "Oh my Lord"? Are comics and pictures that include religious aspects now banned? If they're not, then are we allowed to discuss the characters? For example let's say there's a comic about an angel blowing Jesus. Are we allowed to talk about the in-comic Jesus? What if someone posts something like a demon mutilating a religious figure? Is that allowed? If it is, are we allowed to POLITELY mention that we find it disrespectful or distasteful?

Does this include activism? Anonymous (the group)? What about comics that deal with these topics? What if the comics include them, but in the long run are about overcoming them?

Again, does this extend to the art? Or only to real-life references? What if we were former drug users and we wish to talk about how we moved past it and how badly it hurt our lives and loved ones? Is something like that allowed?

We're not allowed to number threads? Not even to organize our thoughts/ideas? What about bulleted lists? These are helpful for addressing multiple parts of what someone else has said. As for tl;dr, as a reply to someone's long thought out comment I can see how that would be rude, however, are we allowed to use it ourselves after a long comment we ourselves have written in order to post a summery of what we've said for those who won't read the whole thing?

Now for all of these, I should point out, I am not necessarily asking just for myself. For example, I don't know if my brother or dad have accounts here, and if they did I doubt they'd get themselves banned. However, I would still like to know the answers to these on the off chance that they should happen and/or are relevant to any of my friends.

Sorry for the incredibly long comment, and thanks :)

Thank you for the great feedback! I'll see about what I can do to answer them.

Advertisements: It's all measured by intent, but by and large, I don't expect anyone to kick a fuss over it. However, you can still contact us for ways we can advertise your commissions. We are working on both paid and free advertisement options for the artist. We want to help the artist, not hurt them.

Ban evasion: We don't typically check IP addresses with that unless there's another issue, but if it's clear you have a separate account from the banned person, then it shouldn't be a problem. If it ever did, a quick message to us will get it cleared up.

Discussing Disciplinary Actions: Openly/publicly talking about them is discouraged, but if your example happened, and you sensed corruption or a lack of professionalism among the admins, you should contact me and/or the senior management about that so we can take a look. Admin corruption was a thing of the past, and it can stay there. As you said, I don't think you have to worry about it with our admin team, but rest assured, you are not being shut out.

Real Life Info: Nope, won't even get warned. I used this example with the admins to help differentiate the two. I heard EDFDarkAngel1 lives in Phoenix (okay). I heard that EDFDarkAngel1 drives a red 1961 Ferrari GT California (not okay). Whether it's true or not, specific information to an individual (full legal name, SSN, address, phone number, etc) is not okay.

Extreme Sexuality: This is a blanket term for us for kinks that are more tasteless. Don't expect this to get used very often, but just because it is fetish does not make it extreme. Once this has been used, it will likely be clear to everyone as to why.

Harassing: Mountains out of mole hills :P Of course, I wouldn't retroactively punish people for comments they made before they were told it was against the rules, I'm not that bored or that evil. I mean, there are opinions "I don't like scat, it's gross" then there are insults like "don't be a dick" "you're stupid if you like MLP porn."

Major Religions/Politics: The key word is "discussion." A one-off comment about how god is great, or the other way around is fine. But actually going out and talking/discussing the merits of Jesus Christ versus the Flying Spaghetti Monster would invite the wrath of the Thread Banhammer.

National Hatred: It's all about intent. All your examples are perfectly fine. Anarchy groups like Anon are not considered objects of hate.

Illegal Drugs: That's actually a really good question. This was intended to prevent discussion about illegal drugs and activities, to prevent impressionable people from wanting to try them out. I'll chuck this under "we will rule on intent" and if you're trying to promote a drug-free environment, you'll be safe.

Spamming and Trolling: Numbering a thread is an obscure fad that's not really used anymore, it's not saying "I said this back on page 2". It's all about intent, so if you're being a jerk about a TL;DR, expect a record. Otherwise, you're fine.


Hey guys, the rules regarding what can and cant be uploaded / said are only targetted at "serious" images and comments / forum threads. Any work of satire and parodies are exempt from them and still allowed. For example, if somebody were to upload a picture of Hitler boiling jewish people, that wouldn't necessary be allowed. However, if these were all turned into ponies, then it would be allowed as it is a parody of sorts. Essentially, everything that has been uploaded in the past and that has been allowed will continue to be allowed as long as its all within reason.

Dogenzaka
Privileged
4 years ago

So pretty much nothing that would have a decent effect on the site has changed, except that people will now be banned for political dramateering.

Halite
Privileged
4 years ago
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Date: May 11, 2013

EDFDarkAngel1 said:
...
Illegal Drugs: That's actually a really good question. This was intended to prevent discussion about illegal drugs and activities, to prevent impressionable people from wanting to try them out. I'll chuck this under "we will rule on intent" and if you're trying to promote a drug-free environment, you'll be safe.
...

That's not quite how things work on BD.
I don't want to go into detail publicly, but I left their forums after being mistreated(in my opinion) by both a forum moderator, and staff member at BD in regards to what I still genuinely believe wasn't actually a violation of this rule.
They have the same rule there.

Frankly, if we're going to run this the same way from now on, I doubt I'll want to stick around.

furrypickle
Former Staff
4 years ago
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Rating: Safe
Score: 70
User: ippiki_ookami
Date: July 30, 2014

TheHuskyK9 said:
I hope we're not just giving out promotions are we? Users should earn it instead of requesting it

Obviously I agree that people shouldn't get one just because they asked.

But haven't you said that you got your privileged status because you asked for it so that you wouldn't be dealing with the tag limits per hour of a normal user account? It doesn't negate what you said, but I just find it ironic. I mean, if you asked for yours, I don't see why other people can't ask to be considered just like you were. As long as the final decision is always based on merit I'm fine with people being allowed to ask for review.


EDFDarkAngel1 said:
Extreme Sexuality: This is a blanket term for us for kinks that are more tasteless.

Like what, guro?

ippiki ookami
Former Staff
4 years ago
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Score: 111
User: msc
Date: April 30, 2007

Halite said:
That's not quite how things work on BD.
I don't want to go into detail publicly, but I left their forums after being mistreated(in my opinion) by both a forum moderator, and staff member at BD in regards to what I still genuinely believe wasn't actually a violation of this rule.
They have the same rule there.

Frankly, if we're going to run this the same way from now on, I doubt I'll want to stick around.

I don't know how they do things at BD, but around here, if you're mistreated by a staff member (regardless of position), it will be rectified by the other staff. We hold each other accountable for our actions, and if you truly don't deserve what was done to you, it will be undone swiftly.

Halite
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4 years ago
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Rating: Safe
Score: 27
User: Halite
Date: May 11, 2013

ippiki_ookami said:
I don't know how they do things at BD, but around here, if you're mistreated by a staff member (regardless of position), it will be rectified by the other staff. We hold each other accountable for our actions, and if you truly don't deserve what was done to you, it will be undone swiftly.

I really do hope so.
I like hanging out here(digitally speaking).
I shall take a "wait and see" attitude for the present.


..... nothing too major but... I don't think I like them...

like:
Illegal Drugs or Activities : I hope it only affect on forum and it is still ok some art at some point

National Hatred: I hope it is still ok to say I don't like Americans and not talk about it I hope I don't get banned because of it. I mean I am just saying what I don't like lol

Posting Unreleased Content / Hacking Data Files: what if the person did not know....

also with User Ranks
I am not sure what "Can search up to six tags simultaneously" and "constructive behavior" mean...

sorry if I am asking stupid things :I


EDFDarkAngel1 said:
Thank you for the great feedback! I'll see about what I can do to answer them.

<A lot of answers clipped from here for the sake of saving space>

Ok thanks! ^^ That puts my mind greatly at ease. The only answer you provided that still leaves me a little weary is when you said

kinks that are more tasteless

As someone who enjoys urine/watersports, which I'm fairly certain most people aren't fans of, I'm still a bit worried in that regard.

Fluttershy
Privileged
4 years ago

tfkcex said:
...also with User Ranks
I am not sure what "Can search up to six tags simultaneously"...

It means to search like this at once: equine horse pony mlp fim pegasus.

kkpkkpk said:
...which I'm fairly certain most people aren't fans of...

Well.... :3


This is why every list of rules should be limited to about 10 items. Once it gets any longer people start adding bullet points for fun and to try and "cover all our bases". Eventually you get absolutely pointless rules like "TL;DR = ban". When you're forced to really think about the freedoms you're removing and need to make compromises -- that's when a reasonable and effective ruleset appears.


tfkcex said:
like:
Illegal Drugs or Activities : I hope it only affect on forum and it is still ok some art at some point

Well, you shouldn't go around posting how great drugs are and you shouldn't encourage others to use them.

tfkcex said:
National Hatred: I hope it is still ok to say I don't like Americans and not talk about it I hope I don't get banned because of it. I mean I am just saying what I don't like lol

This is only for more serious things, "I don't like Americans" is a neutral statement and your opinion, "I hope those dirty American pigs burn to death!" is mindless Hatred with a dash of bigotry.
So, first one is okay, second is not.

tfkcex said:
Posting Unreleased Content / Hacking Data Files: what if the person did not know....

If you manage to get your hands on that type of Content you'll very well know what it is, trust me on that one.

tfkcex said:
also with User Ranks
I am not sure what "Can search up to six tags simultaneously" and "constructive behavior" mean...

"Can search up to six tags simultaneously":
This means you can only use up to six tags in your search, try searching for female rating:s group cat panda -mlp beach and it shouldn't work (because those are 7 tags) but female rating:s group cat panda -mlp should work because these are only six.

"constructive behavior":
Be helpful, don't troll, don't wilfully incite drama, don't harass others, all in all, display yourself in a way that wouldn't embarrass your mother in public.


furrypickle said:
Obviously I agree that people shouldn't get one just because they asked.

But haven't you said that you got your privileged status because you asked for it so that you wouldn't be dealing with the tag limits per hour of a normal user account? It doesn't negate what you said, but I just find it ironic. I mean, if you asked for yours, I don't see why other people can't ask to be considered just like you were. As long as the final decision is always based on merit I'm fine with people being allowed to ask for review.

I got lucky when Aurali went on a random upgrade spree. I may have asked for it, but I contributed to the site by fixing tags and participating in tagging projects when I was a Member. I'm just hoping the staff won't upgrade users that has done nothing for the site just because they requested one


TheHuskyK9 said:
I got lucky when Aurali went on a random upgrade spree. I may have asked for it, but I contributed to the site by fixing tags and participating in tagging projects when I was a Member. I'm just hoping the staff won't upgrade users that has done nothing for the site just because they requested one

They won't, they'll be discussed if they ask but we won't start handing them out to totally random people.
Also, we already did that beforehand but the real problem is, many good people tend to stay below the radar, this is kinda our way encouraging them to contact us about it if they have need for it.

Patchi
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4 years ago
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Score: 81
User: Patchi
Date: July 27, 2013

So can I still swear?


Patch said:
So can I still swear?

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Score: 2
User: ktkr
Date: November 19, 2012


Remember that censorship, coupled with heavy-handed admins is what killed fchan.


*Paid content over 2 years old is acceptable to post

Wait, does that mean ANY paid content? Or are there any special exclusions?

Fluttershy
Privileged
4 years ago

Spess_Muhreen said:
*Paid content over 2 years old is acceptable to post

Wait, does that mean ANY paid content? Or are there any special exclusions?

Well the Dnp list for sure is one of those exclusions :P


Butterscotch said:
Well the Dnp list for sure is one of those exclusions :P

Damn, I should've figured.


EDFDarkAngel1 said:
In regards to racial and national hate, the admins will be looking at intent. There are countries out there that find the US flag as offensive, just like some people view the swastika.

So will this effect images of the American flag or nazi furry images?

Also is saying 'MERICA now offensive? (i hope not)

Lastly, for the spam does this count people making 30 comments of "cute" on a shit ton of images or just making :) faces everywhere? Ive notice users spamming comments like that..


corgi_bread said:
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Rating: Safe
Score: 10
User: AJ_Fawxe
Date: June 03, 2010

RIP Tealy.

NotMeNotYou said:
I guess it is time to ban you.

So long and thanks for all the fish corgi butts.

Renard_Queenston said:
bye corgi

It has begun! ....Let the purge begin! Bwhahahaha! jk

Falord
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4 years ago
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Rating: Safe
Score: 60
User: Falord
Date: October 11, 2013

Well. I see nothing really wrong about. Not like I'm going to be troll forums just to discuss if jesus was real or not. As long as it doesn't jump into normal posts to the point that you can't even use the lords name in vein.