Robot prototype.

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HI I am Chris and id like ask for help designing this robot inspired by FNAF Mangle. I am in to robotics and automation After I get the design correct I can start 3D printing and casting the parts with aluminum that don't exist yet all other parts are off the shelf ball joints and other hardware I Have only been working on this for about six days and cant seem to get it to look right as far as the head goes I even have idea of making it talk like we do though artificial vocal cords made of small springs Like those old spring microphone toys which would give a cool sounding reverb And an air Bellow with servo actuation to simulate breathing. I have been planning on getting in to Soft robotics so I need to come up with a way to make a tongue, lips and other parts that need to be soft on order to form sounds and words.

Here is a gallery of what i have now if it can be designed in Fusion 360 It can be real.
https://postimg.org/gallery/20vcaqud8/

If you want the models I will upload them.

I hope to keep the robot limited to 5'-5'5" and under 150LBS complete.

Planned moving joints by servo.
Ears
Eyes
Eye lids
Jaw
Neck
Shoulders
Elbows
Wrists
Fingers
Spine
Hips
Knees
Ankles
Toes

Soft Robotic actuation.
Tongue
Lips
Other

This all seems complex but its not that bad. As far as the brains of the whole deal goes using a single board computer and some Micro controllers like arduino uno several of them can communicate via I2C Bus and even with today's advancement in Hardware/Software Neural Networks it can learn to Walk, Talk and even have slight personality all with open source stuff.

I hope to have a working prototype by next year.

We are on a verge of an AI revolution I believe technology is like LEGO you just have to take what is available and create a masterpiece. The one thing you have to do is think out side the box I have made some pretty incredible things using the LEGO philosophy.


Are you sure you want this project associated with a furry porn site art archive? Depending on what this robot is meant to do it seems to have broader appeal. Oh wait...

chris28 said:

Soft Robotic actuation.

Tongue

Lips

Other

You may be in the right place after all.


Lance_Armstrong said:
Are you sure you want this project associated with a furry porn site art archive? Depending on what this robot is meant to do it seems to have broader appeal. Oh wait...

You may be in the right place after all.

LOL that is one of the reasons something like this would be great in the future it could have the power to fall in love that would be interesting. I know it is possible now as a slightly primitive robot but it could do some naughty things even get creative and add something like a Tongue or other soft moving parts to internally edge in a robotic vagina it is a robot after all.



Here is the STL file https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxVFuMzfYXZMNG1UdHlVRjJmcGc/view?usp=sharing hope it works i am using google drive.

The one thing I have to do is keep the designs clean on my personal computer but get creative on this forum that I have to use in incognito mode to hide one of the biggest reasons to develop such a thing from my wife :D .

I am literally changing my sleep schedule from 8 to 5.5-6hrs just to have time to build a prototype within a year.

I have been thinking of a good way for servos to actuate fingers and toes by using cable to squeeze and small springs to retract and that would allow one small servo per digit and realistically hold a shaft.

The eyes will be like the more realistic mangle animations like Cavafly01, Disembowel and others there will be multi color led rings around low cost image tracking cameras for AI to learn faces and obstacles for possible realistic walking combining that with a multi axis accelerometer to mimic the vestibular system in your ear to sense balance. Believe it or not all of these sensors and micro controllers to deal with balance and walking actually cost less than 100USD.

If this all works out and we can figure out a few simple problems to robotics this could be the most advanced step towards robotics so far notice all of the advanced robots you can find on youtube are kind of bulky and most of them where designed for military use. there are some slightly robotic sex dolls but they cost upwards of $100.000 I hope to achieve selling one for $20k depending on capability.


much as i like robots... anything based on the FNAF animatronics sounds SUPER creepy. :/


treos said:
much as i like robots... anything based on the FNAF animatronics sounds SUPER creepy. :/

+1


treos said:
much as i like robots... anything based on the FNAF animatronics sounds SUPER creepy. :/

I could see it being creepy lol as I gave myself a crash course in Blender CAD to start adding more features and rigging and it is definitely creepy. But at first I think any realistic robot feels unsettling and there are tons of people who believe it would be unethical but what really creeps me out is robots with human faces so I got inspired by FNAF because they are animatronics but it wont actually be Mangle. It will also open the door to make what ever you want by changing its features this whole project will hopefully be fully open source meaning whoever can buy a kit to make there own. At least its purpose would never be to harm Human life but if any thing the AI would only be able to care using a programed set of rules.

I actually was able to animate its Jaw in Blender today that was very cool perhaps when its designed I can make an animation for E621 and get a virtual taste of what it could be like.


chris28 said:
I could see it being creepy lol as I gave myself a crash course in Blender CAD to start adding more features and rigging and it is definitely creepy. But at first I think any realistic robot feels unsettling and there are tons of people who believe it would be unethical but what really creeps me out is robots with human faces so I got inspired by FNAF because they are animatronics but it wont actually be Mangle. It will also open the door to make what ever you want by changing its features this whole project will hopefully be fully open source meaning whoever can buy a kit to make there own. At least its purpose would never be to harm Human life but if any thing the AI would only be able to care using a programed set of rules.

I actually was able to animate its Jaw in Blender today that was very cool perhaps when its designed I can make an animation for E621 and get a virtual taste of what it could be like.

if you want to avoid unsettling, i suggest taking a look at uncanny valley. that's the exact thing you are describing.


kamimatsu said:
if you want to avoid unsettling, i suggest taking a look at uncanny valley. that's the exact thing you are describing.

Exactly!! I have always wondered how so many humans played with blow up dolls lol lifeless at least this will move and it does not have to be cold either :).


If it is going to have genetals make them hot swappable if possible


kamimatsu said:
if you want to avoid unsettling, i suggest taking a look at uncanny valley. that's the exact thing you are describing.

i wonder how big of an issue that might be with reploid tech. as the majority of them are anthro animals in appearance yet they typically lean more to the mechanical robotic side of things when it comes to looks. perhaps that would be something worth taking into consideration.

i mean, robotics in general are bound to reach that lvl of development eventually so it's a valid concern.

chris28 said:
Exactly!! I have always wondered how so many humans played with blow up dolls lol lifeless at least this will move and it does not have to be cold either :).

hmmm... one thing you didn't mention was what the outer shell/skin would be like. hard plating, a softer plastic or something else, or furry. that too would play into the appearance and making it more or less creepy.

there's an annoyingly long list of things to consider with robotics. and the list just keeps growing depending on how advanced/powerful the design you have in mind gets.

and with "At least its purpose would never be to harm Human life but if any thing the AI would only be able to care using a programed set of rules."

iirc isn't it something of a requirement that a robots AIs need to follow a specific set of rules at its core to try and keep it from hurting humans?

sure, past a certain point (like with reploids being able to think and decide what to do on their own aka being self aware with their own free will), that might lead to more problems down the line but i doubt you're working on anything remotely advanced enough for that to be much of a concern.


treos said:
sure, past a certain point (like with reploids being able to think and decide what to do on their own aka being self aware with their own free will), that might lead to more problems down the line but i doubt you're working on anything remotely advanced enough for that to be much of a concern.

That's quite simple. How do you stop your children from doing that? Even a child can hold a knife. You teach them. And if they happen to fail at ever developing emotion, even a sociopath can be redirected. Just like children who were born without emotion.

After all. That is essentially what these new AI would be. Children.


There are a lot of questions that cant be answered about the out come of A.I.

I spent about 2hrs trying to get Disembowels 3D mangle to compare some parts and see how different they are and get a good idea of how to go about modeling the parts I can now 3D print Mangles head lol. I have to thank Disembowel for allowing his work to be downloaded.

here is a comparison of his mangle head and the robot head i think the snout is a bit too long.

https://postimg.org/gallery/1pvdknoqe/

Also the idea of this is to be a platform for Male/Female with attachments that can be purchased like Breasts, Vagina or a penis what ever your preference but because this a general purpose platform you can also have no genitals as well as no breast just a flat chest.

I think at first this will be mostly hard materials aside from the mouth because I want to experiment with a more pleasant voice that sounds less robotic not just vibrations from a speakers voice coil. but I still think I should figure out a soft rubber like skin maybe even a felt like fur lol.


chris28 said:
The one thing I have to do is keep the designs clean on my personal computer but get creative on this forum that I have to use in incognito mode to hide one of the biggest reasons to develop such a thing from my wife :D .

This seems like a recipe for divorce tbh.

Wait a second, if she knows about the bot but not the purpose, do you have to have the genitals as a removable attachment?

I don't think the uncanny valley is a problem:

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The fear actually enhances the sex appeal.


Lance_Armstrong said:
The fear actually enhances the sex appeal.

maybe for some people but not everyone.


treos said:
maybe for some people but not everyone.

If chris28 is going to sell one single sexbot, or even a handful of them, he can target even the narrowest niche fetish.


Lance_Armstrong said:
This seems like a recipe for divorce tbh.

Wait a second, if she knows about the bot but not the purpose, do you have to have the genitals as a removable attachment?

I don't think the uncanny valley is a problem:

animatronic anthro bubsy bubsy_(series) crossover feline five_nights_at_freddy's hi_res lynx machine mammal nightmare_fuel robot solo sqrlyjack video_games

Rating: Safe
Score: 3
User: WhiteWhiskey
Date: May 20, 2015 animatronic anthro canine creepy exposed_endoskeleton eyeless fangs female five_nights_at_freddy's five_nights_at_freddy's_2 fox fur hi_res keitronic machine mammal mangle_(fnaf) nightmare_fuel open_mouth robot saliva solo teeth video_games

Rating: Safe
Score: 6
User: slyroon
Date: March 19, 2015 2015 animatronic canine claws five_nights_at_freddy's five_nights_at_freddy's_4 fox glowing glowing_eyes hook machine male mammal nightmare_foxy_(fnaf) nightmare_fuel open_mouth robot robotic_tongue sharp_teeth solo teeth tongue video_games xnirox

Rating: Safe
Score: 71
User: Robinebra
Date: July 26, 2015

The fear actually enhances the sex appeal.

Well the wife knows about everything aside from the dirty side of things Personally I have my wife so I wouldn't need such a thing Maybe once just to see what it would be like and test it lol but I am looking at the (Build it and they will come) philosophy who would have thought a dildo would be so popular?

Lance_Armstrong said:
If chris28 is going to sell one single sexbot, or even a handful of them, he can target even the narrowest niche fetish.

Exactly but I don't feel the robot would need to scary but then again it is your preference.

The main purpose is to be Open to what ever you want Detachable genitals will be a bonus I came here to this forum because there are a lot of creative minds here and I can be Inappropriate if need be where as other Forums would not tolerate it.

Also as an update I have not really been designing but I have been collecting parts I hope soon I can start 3D printing soon and building I just have some more fine tuning to do I am so serious about this I even picked up a second Job on top of my business because I have a lot of Ideas that aren't out there as far as robotics and This could be a game changer so I will have a go at this.

Another hard thing to do is keep motivation when no one believes it could be possible but I keep telling my self its like anything technological we have today there was a time no one thought it could work.


https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xwwdm3/chuck-e-cheeses-creepy-robot-band-is-breaking-up-vgtrn

Maybe you can find some robot parts for cheap when hundreds of these things have to go.


Lance_Armstrong said:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xwwdm3/chuck-e-cheeses-creepy-robot-band-is-breaking-up-vgtrn

Maybe you can find some robot parts for cheap when hundreds of these things have to go.

ಠ_ಠ didn't even click play on the video in that article and the image alone gives some strong FNAF vibes. i get the feeling i should be VERY grateful i never saw that stuff before.

trying something other than img.ur... nice upload animation and that's not super creepy at all is it?

after FNAF, i wonder how many people are happy to see them go and are saying good riddance.


treos said:
ಠ_ಠ didn't even click play on the video in that article and the image alone gives some strong FNAF vibes.

It is definitely a parody of the Chuck E. Cheese's animatronics:

The series is centered on the story of a fictional restaurant named Freddy Fazbear's Pizza (a pastiche of restaurants like Chuck E. Cheese's and ShowBiz Pizza Place). The first three games involve the player working as a nighttime security guard, in which they must utilize several tools, most notably checking security cameras, to survive against animatronic characters, which become mobile and homicidal after-hours.


Here is some progress I am going to make a wireframe for now it will be easier to make changes versus 3D printing.
https://postimg.org/gallery/2r5ial4n2/
https://youtu.be/rPfZD4VNCeI
https://youtu.be/wyNBxSUVcJg

Yes I too felt chucky cheeses lol I sure hope with smoother movement it will not seem like crappy animatronics.


This mad scientist is really going for it! Good luck.


Lance_Armstrong said:
This mad scientist is really going for it! Good luck.

Thank you! Its a bit archaic but here is the moving Jaw.This will change just messing around. https://youtu.be/sroWgGX3tFk

And more head progress. https://postimg.org/gallery/ftulhnpw/

Version 2 of the jaw servo I couldn't stand the cable binding crap.
https://youtu.be/Ek4LUl1aRNM


Here is some tongue lol.
https://youtu.be/0-S1T4Edh44

Another update kind of stuck on the head for now its almost time to start making the chest and arms. Waiting to get more servos and figure out eyes.

https://youtu.be/3cMp-B-czek


Small update I took a good part of the day making its shoulders and a part of its chest hoping I can find solder able servo horns for large scale that would make life easier for the shoulders simple linkages made from the galvanized wire won't be strong enough to lift the arms.

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Here is another short video.
https://youtu.be/_FecMTpiafc

There is obviously a whole lot left not even mentioning figuring out what to use for a skin like latex foam or something and the molds. I now work 2 jobs and work on this at least 2hrs a day its so far been just a little bit over a week so I have come pretty far I think.


I hope its not an issue to multiple post lol Yesterday I built its arms and today for fun I built its tail.

Arms https://youtu.be/6Kz7Ng6zlHk

Tail https://youtu.be/pK989cQ00gA

I was thinking the other day I should make sex toys LOL jentacles


Okay im impressed you have done some incredible work. Keep er going!


Furrykitten34 said:
Okay im impressed you have done some incredible work. Keep er going!

Thank you I hope once I start getting parts in the mail and go to the junk yard maybe for automotive servos and gear motors as they will have enough power for its arms and legs. Once I gather everything I bet the skeleton will be done in 3 months The biggest problem will be the Eyes they have to be Beautiful and detailed to preserve non creepy attributes.

I feel that these eyes are awesome and with Multi color LEDs you can make them any color you like. this is Cavafly01s Picture but the eyes are cool i think.

https://img09.deviantart.net/8904/i/2016/353/1/e/mangle_tempting_look__scene_094_screenshot__by_cavafly01-das5uhf.png


Well waiting for funds/parts is like A kick in the nutts.

Anyone have any ideas you would like to share?


Fix the postimg links.

Is the tongue going to be flexible enough for uh... what you want?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealDoll

Early prototypes were made from solid latex with an interior skeleton, but construction of the outer material was later switched to silicone. In June 2009, Abyss Creations switched from tin cure silicone to platinum silicone, which resulted in dolls that are less prone to tears and compression marks than older RealDolls.

Since a FNAF robot character is stiff by nature, I'm not sure how much silicone should be involved. Maybe a silicone sleeve fitting over certain parts like the tongue. You could use a pump system to squirt certain liquids into the mouth. Tank near the stomach area or lower for ballast, clear vinyl tube up the esophagus.

Will there be a vision system? Will you be training software for vision and movement? Should we expect the hands to be able to manipulate objects (or grasp hips)? That is a lot harder than everything you have done so far but I'm sure a lot of progress (hardware and software) has been made in the last few years on this.