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User: Anomynous
Date: October 10, 2007

Dyrone said:
Your fursona can be, and often is for a lot of people, anything you want it to be.

Maybe I want my fursona to wear glasses. Why should that bother you?


Also a real big one that has me doing contortions in my chair thinking
"Oh gawd! Why did I let this be a thing! > <)"

Is when I stop talking to a peep out of the blue for days or even weeks on end due to work, School, Stuff I wanted to get around too that day or general over anxiety.
Unintentionally leaving them on a cliff hanger of something to the effect
of "Talk to you tomorrow dood" for that time. Slowly building that thought of "Why havn't you gotten back to them yet?!" in my head to the point I just feel crushed by it and not able to talk to them for even longer; Just adding up to the whole- Blarph =P

When all~ of that could have been avoided if I just said 'hi' instead of not and going through a mini version of this single time that happens T T)
(And trust me, This happens offten - -)


Notkastar said:
Also a real big one that has me doing contortions in my chair thinking
"Oh gawd! Why did I let this be a thing! > <)"

Is when I stop talking to a peep out of the blue for days or even weeks on end due to work, School, Stuff I wanted to get around too that day or general over anxiety.
Unintentionally leaving them on a cliff hanger of something to the effect
of "Talk to you tomorrow dood" for that time. Slowly building that thought of "Why havn't you gotten back to them yet?!" in my head to the point I just feel crushed by it and not able to talk to them for even longer; Just adding up to the whole- Blarph =P

When all~ of that could have been avoided if I just said 'hi' instead of not and going through a mini version of this single time that happens T T)
(And trust me, This happens offten - -)

been there, done that before. with how i tend to play MMOs and randomly get bored and quit for long periods of time (months in some cases... my nodiatis character is still there... i just lack any real motivation to return to that game though. :/ ), this gets kinda annoying and sometimes leaves me wondering "should i check back on them today...?" when i did and move onto another game instead.

happens in chat like skype too though not quite so intentionally. people start chatting less and less and just drift apart over time...


Notkastar said:
Also a real big one that has me doing contortions in my chair thinking
"Oh gawd! Why did I let this be a thing! > <)"

Is when I stop talking to a peep out of the blue for days or even weeks on end due to work, School, Stuff I wanted to get around too that day or general over anxiety.
Unintentionally leaving them on a cliff hanger of something to the effect
of "Talk to you tomorrow dood" for that time. Slowly building that thought of "Why havn't you gotten back to them yet?!" in my head to the point I just feel crushed by it and not able to talk to them for even longer; Just adding up to the whole- Blarph =P

When all~ of that could have been avoided if I just said 'hi' instead of not and going through a mini version of this single time that happens T T)
(And trust me, This happens offten - -)

I make of habit of saying "Hey" to my friends and coworkers. Even if they don't respond back, I can at least say I spoke with them.


Dyrone said:
Une thing I find really REALLY cringy is when people put glasses on furries. It just takes me out of the moment...I grew up with "furries" like Bugs Bunny and Micky Mouse...do any of them wear glasses? NO. So when I do see them on a furry character it goes from "oh, what a cute fox girl" to "oh, great, a self-insert character...UGH."

My thinking on this gets really deep, but I'll try to keep it brief...basically I feel sad for people who use being a furry as an escape from their real existence. I assume they must have been hurt by so many people in their lives they just start thinking that animals are better than people, and thus they want to BECOME an animal. I love furry art, but when I catch a whiff of that desperation...that wanting to become an animal rather than a human, it just kind of ruins the piece for me. Glasses are a signifier of that more often than not, because they're mostly left out of furry art unless the artist is trying to recreate a real person in a furry form.

I usually make my characters with realistic flaws to keep them believable and relatable. If it's perfect, then it's boring, and boring makes people say the eight worst words any author can hear: "I don't care what happens to these people." If the flaws work into the story and make it interesting, then the characters become something more than just an object of escape. Besides, without failure and flaws, growth does not exist, and success is meaningless.


treos said:
been there, done that before. with how i tend to play MMOs and randomly get bored and quit for long periods of time (months in some cases... my nodiatis character is still there... i just lack any real motivation to return to that game though. :/ ), this gets kinda annoying and sometimes leaves me wondering "should i check back on them today...?" when i did and move onto another game instead.

happens in chat like skype too though not quite so intentionally. people start chatting less and less and just drift apart over time...

Furrin_Gok said:
I make of habit of saying "Hey" to my friends and coworkers. Even if they don't respond back, I can at least say I spoke with them.

Ah so I'm not nuts for feeling this way. =)
(Well, Maybe a bit but not to the degree I thought I was at ~ w ~)
Though doesn't it bother you to not talk to a peep like that? I mean sure it's not like you stop talking to your mother or anything but it really does bug me a lot to leave someone hanging like that because it feels like I'm letting them down in a way. =T

Though on the flip side it's really draining to talk to anyone online nowadays.
(At least for me anyway) since doods are seemingly online and ready to talk all the time, Never letting up so you can recharge - -) Though when I do recharge- Well- look back at my first post lolz n_n;
(Being an introvert kinda sucks btws.)

If you don't mind me asking, Just to know what peeps Really think when this happens: What do you think of a friend/person that you had a pretty o.k chat with, that said that he/she would talk to you soon and doesn't for a while?

Edit:

kamimatsu said:
I usually make my characters with realistic flaws to keep them believable and relatable. If it's perfect, then it's boring, and boring makes people say the eight worst words any author can hear: "I don't care what happens to these people." If the flaws work into the story and make it interesting, then the characters become something more than just an object of escape. Besides, without failure and flaws, growth does not exist, and success is meaningless.

Dood's got a point. Without flaws like needing glasses to see the world around them or something personality wise that could cause some friction later down the road; Your characters at risk of being called one of the worst things one can call a character

▼ "A Mary Sue"

Mary sue's are pretty much those perfect snowballs of a character that are so over powered ether ability wise with them pretty much being able to do anything ever with absolutely no draw back or Personality wise where everyone loves them and they can do no wrong. (Most times both) These are generally avoided because there's just no story with characters like that. Stories have conflict, adversity and drama but with a mary sue all that is meaningless because the Sue can solve everything ever in a flick of the wrist. The "Story" at that point would just turn into a power fantasy for the writer/ stereotypical fan-fic dood =P


kamimatsu said:
I usually make my characters with realistic flaws to keep them believable and relatable. If it's perfect, then it's boring, and boring makes people say the eight worst words any author can hear: "I don't care what happens to these people." If the flaws work into the story and make it interesting, then the characters become something more than just an object of escape. Besides, without failure and flaws, growth does not exist, and success is meaningless.

How did this veer towards building characters? If you're doing a 1 to 1 copy of yourself, just adding a few furry features here and there, you aren't building anything...it takes hardly any thought...you're just copying yourself. That's what's cringy to me. If you're going to have a character that's YOUR character then make it interesting by, uh, not just making it another nerd with glasses who loves gaming, reading, cats, cuddling, etc. That's been done 100 times over. Furries with glasses are by and large NOT interesting, they're just a cliche at this point.

That's what makes me say "I don't care what happens to these people" when I realize that a character is literally just a 1 to 1 translation of an average, boring person. And this is where you say "oh, so you're saying you're not average and boring?" Not at all, I'm average as fuck, but you also don't see me making a character out of myself.


Dyrone said:
How did this veer towards building characters? If you're doing a 1 to 1 copy of yourself, just adding a few furry features here and there, you aren't building anything...it takes hardly any thought...you're just copying yourself. That's what's cringy to me.

I take it you also find it cringy when people do this in video games? People trying to play as a near-exact replica of themselves is not uncommon.

Dyrone said:
If you're going to have a character that's YOUR character then make it interesting by, uh, not just making it another nerd with glasses who loves gaming, reading, cats, cuddling, etc. That's been done 100 times over. Furries with glasses are by and large NOT interesting, they're just a cliche at this point.

So? There's no law anywhere that says characters must be interesting or radically different from the person who created them. If a character creator wants to make a boring mundane fiction version of themselves, then that's their choice. If I were you, I'd be more worried about the ridiculously overdone special snowflakey ones than the mundane bespectacled ones.


Dyrone said:
If you're doing a 1 to 1 copy of yourself, just adding a few furry features here and there, you aren't building anything...it takes hardly any thought...you're just copying yourself.

...That's generally what a fursona is-- yourself, but as an anthro.

When people try to make fursonas based on their fantasies, that are nothing like how they actually are? That, to me, is cringey.


Here's my thoughts on this matter of what a fursona/character should be:

Everyone has different tastes and different people want different things from their fursonas, some might want theirs to merely be themselves in anthro form while others might want theirs to be completely different from them and if you ask me, either one is perfectly fine.
My own fursona is a combination of both of these, she's like me in some ways and different in others. Unlike me, she's an adventurer who travels to exotic regions and ventures into the ruins of long forgotten civilizations and she's also a pyrokinetic(overdone, I know). But like me, she's fairly laid-back carefree and enjoys living on her own terms, good-natured for the most part but with a short temper at times, usually solitary but cares for others.
My fursona is an escapist fantasy for the most part but there is some degree of realism, the reason I went this route is because I intended for her to be a different me who lives a different life in a different world. This is what I chose to do with my 'sona and other people should do whatever they choose do with theirs and wether they want to keep things simple or go all out is up to them because as I said earlier, different people want different things from their fursonas.

On topic: People who say "git gud" make me cringe the most.


BlueDingo said:
So? There's no law anywhere that says characters must be interesting or radically different from the person who created them.

It's not a law, but if you want people to maybe enjoy the art you create or commission then yeah, maybe try to make the characters interesting. And you could say "well, maybe they make that art for their own enjoyment, and not the enjoyment of others" which is rubbish. If they wanted it solely for their own enjoyment then they wouldn't bother posting it online.

Ratte said:
...That's generally what a fursona is-- yourself, but as an anthro.

When people try to make fursonas based on their fantasies, that are nothing like how they actually are? That, to me, is cringey.

I'm not saying make yourself a furry greek god, I'm saying I just don't really understand the point of copying yourself 1 to 1. Where does that "rule" end? Does this furry copy have to only engage in activities you already engage in irl? I thought the entire point of a fursona is the fantasy of it. Like your fursona is going to go places and do things that you can't. Do you find that part of it cringy as well? If so this whole thing is all starting to sound very boring...I'm glad I don't engage in it.


Dyrone said:
It's not a law, but if you want people to maybe enjoy the art you create or commission then yeah, maybe try to make the characters interesting. And you could say "well, maybe they make that art for their own enjoyment, and not the enjoyment of others" which is rubbish. If they wanted it solely for their own enjoyment then they wouldn't bother posting it online.

I'm not saying make yourself a furry greek god, I'm saying I just don't really understand the point of copying yourself 1 to 1. Where does that "rule" end? Does this furry copy have to only engage in activities you already engage in irl? I thought the entire point of a fursona is the fantasy of it. Like your fursona is going to go places and do things that you can't. Do you find that part of it cringy as well? If so this whole thing is all starting to sound very boring...I'm glad I don't engage in it.

Not everyone is into wish-fulfillment fantasies. Especially anyone writing something worth reading.


Dyrone said:
It's not a law, but if you want people to maybe enjoy the art you create or commission then yeah, maybe try to make the characters interesting. And you could say "well, maybe they make that art for their own enjoyment, and not the enjoyment of others" which is rubbish. If they wanted it solely for their own enjoyment then they wouldn't bother posting it online.

Because no one has ever uploaded artwork of their characters to demonstrate their drawing skills for commissions, to preserve their artwork using an online service or because they just felt like it, right? Not everyone does things the same way you do, mate.


Dyrone said:
I'm not saying make yourself a furry greek god, I'm saying I just don't really understand the point of copying yourself 1 to 1. Where does that "rule" end? Does this furry copy have to only engage in activities you already engage in irl? I thought the entire point of a fursona is the fantasy of it. Like your fursona is going to go places and do things that you can't. Do you find that part of it cringy as well? If so this whole thing is all starting to sound very boring...I'm glad I don't engage in it.

If they're not like me and not doing the things I do, they're not a fursona, they're another character. I already have plenty of those, who deal with their own flaws in their own flawed world in their own canon separate from true reality.

I don't need or want to live vicariously through something that's just meant to be me except as an animalperson doing the things I already do. I see the both of these as entirely separate things.


trans...racial?

um...i'm pretty sure your claims have completely fallen apart around the time you biological parents came forth to talk about these claims and...both your mother and father are white.

so...how exactly is this person "black"?

and despite that form of proof destroying her claims, she still sticks by said claims.

am i witnessing another case of mental gymnastics in this video?


treos said:
trans...racial?

um...i'm pretty sure your claims have completely fallen apart around the time you biological parents came forth to talk about these claims and...both your mother and father are white.

so...how exactly is this person "black"?

and despite that form of proof destroying her claims, she still sticks by said claims.

am i witnessing another case of mental gymnastics in this video?

I remember when white people looking and acting like stereotypical black people were called wiggers. For some reason, people seem to think a name change makes it more acceptable to pretend to be something they're not.


So what's the difference between wanting to be a different race and wanting to be a different gender?


Ijerk said:
So what's the difference between wanting to be a different race and wanting to be a different gender?

One involves race, the other involves gender.


BlueDingo said:
One involves race, the other involves gender.

I mean, in terms of being socially acceptable...

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BlueDingo said:
One involves race, the other involves gender.

he is a teachers' teacher


Ijerk said:
I mean, in terms of being socially acceptable...

Because people who refuse to accept the latter as 100% factual truth despite all evidence proving otherwise are branded bigots by certain kinds of people even when no actual bigotry is present, while the former hasn't reached that stage yet.


Mutisija said:
no???

Must be the Mandela effect.
I completely forgot about it, but also people who believe in Mandela effect make me cringe.

And about glasses. I think they make some people look better, if they are even trying to pick a pair of glasses that suits them of course. But it's really just taste and preference, you are free to not like how glasses or certain characters look.


Getting back to the OP, one of the things (and it's a long list, but I don't have all night :P ) that make me cringe and/or facepalm is a lot of people on the internet acting like creators are obligated to allow their work to be posted everywhere without getting any input in the matter, otherwise they're some kind of Bad Person(tm). Some of the posts in the Palcomix thread elsewhere on the forum are recent examples, but far from the only ones.


People who are huge, pretentious and overly confident dicks to others but as soon as someone calls them out on it they want to act like a victim. I went to school with someone like that who would constantly call people "fucking morons" and act high and mighty, and he legit cried and ran out of the room when some dude who was done with his shit went off on him. I think he may have been on the spectrum or had another mental issue so I felt a little bad, but still it was one of the cringiest thing I had ever seen in my life.


well, i tried some pineapple chunks today which wound up being WAY too bitter to eat (that was worse than a lemon) and some apple flavored soda...which i won't be getting again. dunno why i thought that 2 litre apple drink would be good. i mean, it kinda tastes like an apple but at the same time it doesn't which leads to a pretty bad end result. :/ overall, won't be trying either again. well, no pineapple chunks plain.

seriously, wtf were those so darn bitter? i've had things with pineapple as an ingredient before but nothing anywhere near as bitter as this was.

as for the apple stuff... whatever that is, it's not good at all. Apple Manzana is what it's called.

edit: ok, so apparently this weird apple soda has another name as well: Barillito Apple

Barillito Manzana when you piece things together and that translate to... "Keg Apple" in english.

not only does it taste weird but that's one of the strangest names for a soda that i've ever heard of. oh and that's spanish btw.


i know i tend to double post a good bit in a few threads but...i do at least keep it relevant to the topic...

that said... YOUTUBE TV - EPIC FAIL

note the following comparison of service quality:

youtube: i can watch videos that load at a relatively decent speed only at 144P - 240P

netflix: i can stream entire episodes and movies in HD with little trouble at all.

lol why would anyone want to use youtube of all places for tv?

looks like there might be an exodus of content creators from youtube to other services that actually give a F about content creators. of course, it was always bound to boil down to this once google bought youtube. >.> money money money...always money... well, looks like youtube cares very little for those who made it what it is and once said people leave...goodbye youtube and hello whatever replaces it.


Oh cool, a reason not to use a service I've never heard of before now.


Depending on the situation and the tone I can find someone saying "bro" really cringy.


Sorrowless said:
Depending on the situation and the tone I can find someone saying "bro" really cringy.

Same.


Sorrowless said:
Depending on the situation and the tone I can find someone saying "bro" really cringy.

Some people use bro the same way other people use words like mate, pal, homie, comrade, etc.