treos said:
for the original Deus Ex? o.O wasn't aware there was any mods for it. it'd be the gog version i use btw if that matters any.

wow, the nameless mod sounds quite impressive. you don't see many mods for games that have had that much work put into them. that is a rare sight.

There's also the Revision mod, which includes separate modes for Biomod and Shifter mods as well, though I'm not sure if they've released it yet for GoG version.


just saw this post and was reminded of some jim sterling complains about alot when reviewing shitty steam greenlight games.

Motion Blur: when is motion blur ever a good thing? it's completely unnatural and if used too much (a small amount goes a long way with this type of thing) it results in viewers feeling nauseous or get motion sickness. does irl use motion blur? i think not.

be it in video games or animation in general, that's one thing i'd have to agree is almost always terrible to see.

edit: speaking of bad motion blur...


treos said:
just saw this post and was reminded of some jim sterling complains about alot when reviewing shitty steam greenlight games.

Motion Blur: when is motion blur ever a good thing? it's completely unnatural and if used too much (a small amount goes a long way with this type of thing) it results in viewers feeling nauseous or get motion sickness. does irl use motion blur? i think not.

be it in video games or animation in general, that's one thing i'd have to agree is almost always terrible to see.

Motion blur was invented for this cartoon
It was good, here, because the frames per second was insufficient to properly show quick animation, and blurring certain swiftly animated scenes allowed the artist to show the humorous cartoony scenes.


Furrin_Gok said:
Motion blur was invented for this cartoon
It was good, here, because the frames per second was insufficient to properly show quick animation, and blurring certain swiftly animated scenes allowed the artist to show the humorous cartoony scenes.

been a long time since i last saw that cartoon and i guess you have a point. it does work well in some cases. not so much in others (oh man, that gif i linked. that was terrible.)


treos said:
been a long time since i last saw that cartoon and i guess you have a point. it does work well in some cases. not so much in others (oh man, that gif i linked. that was terrible.)

Okay, yeah, that's just being lazy and not using the frames at your disposal.
And it's a webm, not a gif.


treos said:
does irl use motion blur? i think not.

Actually it sort of does. If an object is moving quickly then a person's brain will automatically add motion blur to it.

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Actually it sort of does. If an object is moving quickly then a person's brain will automatically add motion blur to it.

Cameras too. Capture time is not instantaneous, so a fast moving object will come up blurred.


hardest thing i've done yet in Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

i just went to and shot up the Palisade Property Bank...and killed 8 or so cops upon exiting the building and and i SURVIVED!

boy, that took a crap ton of ammo (not that i had much to begin with). wasn't expecting the friggin security mechs walking around once the alarms started going off.

security cameras EVERYWHERE, security lasers (that set off the freaking alarms when crossed), like 30 or so guards or so it seemed, at least 3 mechs, darn cieling mounted gun turrets...

lol guess it shows that i'm not too heavy on the stealth in this kind of game. should've seen the cops coming ahead of time though cause, 'duh, i just shot up a 3 story bank so of course the cops would be waiting outside. more surprised they didn't barge in.

man oh man was that intense. ...i wonder what other high security places i can raid this early in the game. >:)

oh and should be getting Toukiden: Kiwami from gamefly soon too. no idea what that game is like though and theres not much info about it on gamefaqs either.


So, Yooka Laylee came out. Not played it yet, hoping it will go on sale eventually, but it seems like it's gotten a reasonably positive response thus far.

Anyone here tried it?

Surprisingly less porn incoming than I expected.


Clawdragons said:
So, Yooka Laylee came out. Not played it yet, hoping it will go on sale eventually, but it seems like it's gotten a reasonably positive response thus far.

Anyone here tried it?

Surprisingly less porn incoming than I expected.

i will sooner or later. it's been in my queue for a while now.


Clawdragons said:
So, Yooka Laylee came out. Not played it yet, hoping it will go on sale eventually, but it seems like it's gotten a reasonably positive response thus far.

Anyone here tried it?

Surprisingly less porn incoming than I expected.

Dude. It's Banjo Kazooie the reboot. The furry artists who grew up on that game are playing the hell out of Yooka Laylee instead of drawing it. Only ones I've seen making art are also claiming "I haven't had a chance to play it yet."

I've been playing a bit of it, and I gotta say I like how they did Trowzer Snake. Unlike Moneybags, Trowzer doesn't seem to be so greedy that he becomes an asshole out of it, and unlike Jamjars he doesn't seem to just be testing your ability to get to the notes, but actually interested in business. He lands in a middle area that makes him seem like an actual businessman.


bideo gaem
this is why i dont pay attention to Kickstarter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmUiVXW4R5E


Furrin_Gok said:
Dude. It's Banjo Kazooie the reboot. The furry artists who grew up on that game are playing the hell out of Yooka Laylee instead of drawing it. Only ones I've seen making art are also claiming "I haven't had a chance to play it yet."

I've been playing a bit of it, and I gotta say I like how they did Trowzer Snake. Unlike Moneybags, Trowzer doesn't seem to be so greedy that he becomes an asshole out of it, and unlike Jamjars he doesn't seem to just be testing your ability to get to the notes, but actually interested in business. He lands in a middle area that makes him seem like an actual businessman.

Did you ever see the animated short that was essentially his introduction?


kamimatsu said:
Did you ever see the animated short that was essentially his introduction?

Rings a bell, but I don't really remember anything about it.


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bideo gaem
this is why i dont pay attention to Kickstarter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmUiVXW4R5E

Nearly every negative review I've seen of the game seems to be salty about JonTron, whereas the positive reviews don't mention him.

Somehow I think there might be some bias here.


Clawdragons said:
Nearly every negative review I've seen of the game seems to be salty about JonTron, whereas the positive reviews don't mention him.

Somehow I think there might be some bias here.

Well, given how much salt came from his being removed just a few days prior to the game's release (which, let's be honest, once you're that close to the release just leave it be people), it makes sense that positive reviews aren't going to mention it, as that would get them backlash.

Why there's no negativity that doesn't mention him is questionable, you'd think it's been done enough. At least Dunk had a lot of other reasons to give it a negative.


Furrin_Gok said:
Rings a bell, but I don't really remember anything about it.

It was a fan animation revolving around what Yookah and Laylee were going to do with all the collectibles they found, and one of the jokes involved Laylee trying to subtly explain to Trouzer the misfortune of his name, getting less subtle with each attempt before giving up. Another involved Banjo-Kazooie.


Toukiden: Kiwami came in the mail today and it's pretty good. it's something of a cross between monster hunter and dynasty warriors (well, the gameplay style is largely dynasty but that's a given with any game from W-Force).

still not entirely liking the reuse of the same maps over and over again for every mission but that's also a given with W-Force games. i would say the monster hunter aspects kinda balance out the reused maps issue.

only up to chapter 2 currently and overall it's better than what i'd normally expect of this type of game. oh and it has both online and offline multiplayer (looks like you use the NPC bots in offline). so this is another game in the growing ranks of offline multiplayer with bots. bots which work quite well. these go around knocking enemies out and gathering items (purifying the oni) faster than i can. darn bots make for better team mates than i do. :/ never thought i'd see the day when video games would actually start using COMPETENT bots.

heck, in the 7th storyline mission they were handling that large spider oni FAR better than i was. i was just managing to purify each body part they took out so they would regenerate. another monster hunter aspect...kinda. you get bonus loot for doing that.

i'm sure these bots will hit a point where even they start having trouble. for now, i think i'll just sit back and...gather the loot...quietly... :/


Clawdragons said:
Nearly every negative review I've seen of the game seems to be salty about JonTron, whereas the positive reviews don't mention him.

Somehow I think there might be some bias here.

the worst I heard of the game so far was mainly from the Xbox One version having terrible framerates before it got an update, as well as the camera being kind of terrible in a game that demands precise camera positioning. I only heard about Jontron being in the game right after they Jontron's voice oddly enough though.


jim sterling: YOUTUBE GAME ULTIMATE SNAKE ELITE

wtf is this? i wonder, is this the kind of stuff you and the other staff here typically delete on sight, NMNY?

that is just BAD.


dammit, konami!

another castlevania pachinko machine? i hope Igarashi's game blows you out of the Fing water big time.

out of all game publishers, probably none deserve bankruptcy and to have its assets & IP's sold off more than konami. this is why indie devs are in and big publishers are out nowadays. the publishers are shit and don't even care about the IP's they own.

pachinko is that stupid gambling game where a ball falls down and bounces around on a bunch of little sticks before it hits the bottom, right? what a shitty use of the castlevania IP.


treos said:
dammit, konami!

another castlevania pachinko machine? i hope Igarashi's game blows you out of the Fing water big time.

out of all game publishers, probably none deserve bankruptcy and to have its assets & IP's sold off more than konami. this is why indie devs are in and big publishers are out nowadays. the publishers are shit and don't even care about the IP's they own.

pachinko is that stupid gambling game where a ball falls down and bounces around on a bunch of little sticks before it hits the bottom, right? what a shitty use of the castlevania IP.

Yeah, and they're losing money on Pachinko and they realized it with MGS, but now they forgot? People win big on those machines and Konami has to pay for all of the balls people cash out for random junk (Yes, they don't win tickets, they win the Pachinko balls themselves).


Furrin_Gok said:
Yes, they don't win tickets, they win the Pachinko balls themselves.

Isn't that how Pachinko manages to be technically legal in Japan in the first place due to Japan's stance against Gambling? That's why the Game Corner in Pokemon did that with the slots. You win the extra chances and trade the chances for prizes in a separate totally-not-related nearby business.


kamimatsu said:
Isn't that how Pachinko manages to be technically legal in Japan in the first place due to Japan's stance against Gambling? That's why the Game Corner in Pokemon did that with the slots. You win the extra chances and trade the chances for prizes in a separate totally-not-related nearby business.

huh, didn't know there was gambling in pokemon games. now THAT should cause some problems since pretty much everyone from all ages play pokemon. i doubt parents want their kids to be gambling like that. hmmm...well, the koreans probably wouldn't give a f (they came up with micro-transactions after all so i doubt they care that much about gambling. gotta do whatever it takes to keep the green flowing, no matter what.) but the rest of the world likely does to varying extents.

edit: oo, i just found a partially disassembled Companion Cube in Deus Ex: Mankind Divided! hello, friend i've never met directly.


treos said:
huh, didn't know there was gambling in pokemon games. now THAT should cause some problems since pretty much everyone from all ages play pokemon. i doubt parents want their kids to be gambling like that. hmmm...well, the koreans probably wouldn't give a f (they came up with micro-transactions after all so i doubt they care that much about gambling. gotta do whatever it takes to keep the green flowing, no matter what.) but the rest of the world likely does to varying extents.

edit: oo, i just found a partially disassembled Companion Cube in Deus Ex: Mankind Divided! hello, friend i've never met directly.

the pokemon series had the game stores which were essentially gambling, and they decided to remove these starting with 5th generation (Black/White) due to PEGI rating any game with gambling in it as an 18+ game, no matter what other content the game had, although the Virtual Console rereleases of Pokemon R/B/Y still had the game corner completely intact as it was in the Gameboy originals.

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Coffey25 said:
the pokemon series had the game stores which were essentially gambling, and they decided to remove these starting with 5th generation (Black/White) due to PEGI rating any game with gambling in it as an 18+ game, no matter what other content the game had, although the Virtual Console rereleases of Pokemon R/B/Y still had the game corner completely intact as it was in the Gameboy originals.

Technically, anything with a risk/reward system of some kind is a form of gambling. You won't find many games that don't have this in some form. The law only really affects obvious forms (eg. casino games) that involve some form of currency.


BlueDingo said:
Technically, anything with a risk/reward system of some kind is a form of gambling. You won't find many games that don't have this in some form. The law only really affects obvious forms (eg. casino games) that involve some form of currency.

Yup, but the game corner in Pokemon worked the same way Pachinko works in Japan, except with slots. Despite being mostly luck-based, the balls are not technically currency, and cannot be sold back to the company, instead being traded in to a "separate" company in a different building for prizes that also aren't currency like food or toys, like a Dave and Buster's except the points and tickets are the same thing. The store that only accepts balls from that specific nearby center have an unofficial partnership selling the balls back to it, but while officially they are separate companies with a partnership, they are basically unofficially the exact same thing, and it would be like treating GameStop and EB-Games like different companies.

What makes it legal is threefold. First, nothing is stopping the player from just buying the balls and going straight to the prize store to buy prizes with the balls without gambling, effectively just buying it like any regular store. Second, the balls are not considered a form of currency and aren't redeemable at the same company that sells them, meaning they don't act like casino chips, legally hold no value, and are exempt from the law as it only covers money and things with monetary value. Third, the prize center is technically not the same company, even though in practice and financially they are the same. It's like how businesses in the United States avoid being considered monopolies by being two totally different companies doing the same thing and moving money between each other and one owner is just a figurehead acting under the other.

So it's legal under a technicality. A loophole. And that exact loophole is shown in Pokemon.

On another note, the game corner is indirectly responsible for Celadon being my favorite color.


kamimatsu said:
Yup, but the game corner in Pokemon worked the same way Pachinko works in Japan, except with slots. Despite being mostly luck-based, the balls are not technically currency, and cannot be sold back to the company, instead being traded in to a "separate" company in a different building for prizes that also aren't currency like food or toys, like a Dave and Buster's except the points and tickets are the same thing. The store that only accepts balls from that specific nearby center have an unofficial partnership selling the balls back to it, but while officially they are separate companies with a partnership, they are basically unofficially the exact same thing, and it would be like treating GameStop and EB-Games like different companies.

but in that way, things like balls and tickets become a form of currency since your saving up large quantities of them to trade-in aka "buy" prizes with them. the same way you spend irl $ to buy things.


treos said:
but in that way, things like balls and tickets become a form of currency since your saving up large quantities of them to trade-in aka "buy" prizes with them. the same way you spend irl $ to buy things.

Right, but the balls aren't allowed to leave the general area, the company redeeming them is legally not the one selling them to you, and the one that is doesn't buy them back, like the casinos in other places tend to do. They take advantage of semantics to claim the ball has no value because it doesn't to them, since they don't buy back. You go in knowing the most you can leave with is what you didn't spend and possibly prizes that functionally speaking you bought with a discount. The prizes aren't what you'd go in for, since they're usually something minor like a piece of chocolate or a toy.

Though there are some where it gets blurry and are probably illegal, like ones where the side that sells the balls buys the prizes, meaning you could sell the balls for prizes and sell the prizes the same way someone cashes in chips. It's borderline illegal in Japan, but there have been cases like the one in Pokemon with connections to Team Rocket, so someone reporting a gambling ring could run the risk of trying to report a group like the Yakuza, which goes about how you'd expect.