AnotherDay said:
That, right there. Inanna Eloah does a ton of SUPER niche content that a lot of people simply don't like. When that's the stuff most people see of you, regardless of your skill or talent, then that's what they associate you with, and most people /don't/ want to pay for that sort of stuff.

I believe you are doing a disservice to Inanna Eloah by blaming the niche fetishes rather than the technical quality of the art.

And look, no gore here: https://e926.net/post/index/1/user:InannaEloah%20-rating:e


Commissions aren't lucrative unless you rely on your name. In other news, water is wet. I make fuck all per month, too.


Lance_Armstrong said:
I believe you are doing a disservice to Inanna Eloah by blaming the niche fetishes rather than the technical quality of the art.

Not only that, but I actually get *more* commissions now that I draw that niche art for money. Back when I only ever drew "normal" porn for commissions, I got even less work than I do now.

Ratte said:
Commissions aren't lucrative unless you rely on your name. In other news, water is wet. I make fuck all per month, too.

Tell me something I don't know. Still doesn't make it any easier. If there was another way for me to sell my art that was more lucrative, I'd be looking into it.


Maybe there's an overproduction on furry art?


InannaEloah said:
Tell me something I don't know. Still doesn't make it any easier. If there was another way for me to sell my art that was more lucrative, I'd be looking into it.

The only way I know of is making porn but you already do. I'd almost consider making porn for commissions if I didn't hate making it in the first place. Getting more than "just enough to pay two bills" would be nice.

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People who can't tell the difference between "being proud of something" and "considering something superior" and thinks the former is the latter.


BlueDingo said:
People who can't tell the difference between "being proud of something" and "considering something superior" and thinks the former is the latter.

the distinction between patriotism and nationalism, one could say
Redditors would have me believe that owning my country's flag would mean I'm as nationalist as the most ardent supporters of Nazism


The reality that the universe is chaotic and unforgiving and that all life is meaningless. The only joy i feel is in materialistic and frivolous objects/activities, that also makes me sad.

Life is meaningless lets make the most out of it.


Furrykitten34 said:
The reality that the universe is chaotic and unforgiving and that all life is meaningless. The only joy i feel is in materialistic and frivolous objects/activities, that also makes me sad.

Life is meaningless lets make the most out of it.

Yet, there are those that do try to 'make the most out of it' only to end up failing to complete what they wanted to be, in essence, fail to capture their dreams and end up rotting in limbo. To make that meaning in life requires ambitiousness, something that is more or less butchered in my life.


I agree with what you two are saying. We are animals and the more technology progresses the more clear this is. We have instincts and modern life may go against the kind of life we were evolved for. The conscience may not want it but the subconscious doesn't care.


Furrykitten34 said:
The reality that the universe is chaotic and unforgiving and that all life is meaningless. The only joy i feel is in materialistic and frivolous objects/activities, that also makes me sad.

Life is meaningless lets make the most out of it.

I've always seen it the opposite. The fact that it probably DOES have meaning and a reason is what stings for me. Whatever it is that planned everything is sick for creating such a mess and failing to fix it. That thing forced my grandfather to watch his son die and his wife sink into the same depression that sped up his dementia and may possibly kill him. It forced my grandmother to lose her son and may possibly force her to bury her son and her husband within the same year. When my other grandmother found someone after losing her husband and seemed to be recovering from her depression, her boyfriend was struck with dementia and now she has to watch HIM slowly die. When my sister, my hero, was so close to graduation, and it looked like at least one of us was going to have a degree, it gave her the same insomnia that took that future from me. I don't think this is part of some plan, but I have a feeling it IS the plan, and there's nothing anyone can do. Even if it isn't the plan itself, nothing can justify it, and it's too late for excuses.


kamimatsu said:
I've always seen it the opposite. The fact that it probably DOES have meaning and a reason is what stings for me. Whatever it is that planned everything is sick for creating such a mess and failing to fix it. That thing forced my grandfather to watch his son die and his wife sink into the same depression that sped up his dementia and may possibly kill him. It forced my grandmother to lose her son and may possibly force her to bury her son and her husband within the same year. When my other grandmother found someone after losing her husband and seemed to be recovering from her depression, her boyfriend was struck with dementia and now she has to watch HIM slowly die. When my sister, my hero, was so close to graduation, and it looked like at least one of us was going to have a degree, it gave her the same insomnia that took that future from me. I don't think this is part of some plan, but I have a feeling it IS the plan, and there's nothing anyone can do. Even if it isn't the plan itself, nothing can justify it, and it's too late for excuses.

Does it frighten you to think that this happens for no reason?


Sorrowless said:
Does it frighten you to think that this happens for no reason?

No. It would comfort me to believe that. I want to be wrong.


kamimatsu said:
No. It would comfort me to believe that. I want to be wrong.

In that case. You can't prove a negative. There are no good evidence for powers that direct people's lives. But you already know this, don't you? You have a feeling you can't shake off.


Sorrowless said:
In that case. You can't prove a negative. There are no good evidence for powers that direct people's lives. But you already know this, don't you? You have a feeling you can't shake off.

I definitely wish there isn't. I don't believe in justice, so obviously a world with no higher power would be the ideal world. I'd rather be a meaningless creature than a celestial fucktoy. As for the feeling I can't shake off, during a near-death experience I thought I saw it, and since then I've felt dead. I stopped being able to feel certain things like pride and wonder. A lot of things are still there, but I don't think most of me made it, and whatever part of me did survive amounts to something sub-human, because it cheated.


"Minimum Quality Standards" Quite an ironic KEK.


people not knowing the definition of irony

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Knotty_Curls said:
people not knowing the definition of irony

That's for when something resembles iron, right?


BlueDingo said:
That's for when something resembles iron, right?

Nah, that's Fey.


Knotty_Curls said:
people not knowing the definition of irony

I know a good example of what irony actually is

it's not a story the jedi would tell you


Knotty_Curls said:
people not knowing the definition of irony

Or people who don't know there are multiple. You've got:
Dramatic Irony - when the audience knows what the victim doesn't and would have no way of knowing
Situational Irony - The line between this and coincidence is blurry
Cruel Irony - I don't know this definition

And the rest.

EDIT: About what I said about my grandfather possibly dying. He just died this morning. Found out just a few minutes ago. I expected to be a lot more devastated than I was. He was one of the few relatives I actually viewed positively, and no matter how hard I try I can't care that my hero just died. I think I broke.


kamimatsu said:
EDIT: About what I said about my grandfather possibly dying. He just died this morning. Found out just a few minutes ago. I expected to be a lot more devastated than I was. He was one of the few relatives I actually viewed positively, and no matter how hard I try I can't care that my hero just died. I think I broke.

Something similar happened to me recently. We are strangely alike.


Sorrowless said:
Something similar happened to me recently. We are strangely alike.

It's happened once before, after losing my uncle. The day before, I'm breaking down seeing everyone die around me and starting to get Survivor's Guilt. As soon as I hear about it, the first thing I think is "I could really go for some pizza." I think that makes me a terrible person.


kamimatsu said:
It's happened once before, after losing my uncle. The day before, I'm breaking down seeing everyone die around me and starting to get Survivor's Guilt. As soon as I hear about it, the first thing I think is "I could really go for some pizza." I think that makes me a terrible person.

Nah, you went to the stage of acceptance. "Yep. That happened. Nothing I can do will change that, so I may as well just carry on."


Furrin_Gok said:
Nah, you went to the stage of acceptance. "Yep. That happened. Nothing I can do will change that, so I may as well just carry on."

Humans were originally a nomadic species. We adapted to grieve quickly and move on because we often didn't have time to do otherwise.

It doesn't make you bad or wrong or evil or anything. It's just another way humans learned to survive early on, when everything was still trying and easily capable of killing us - back before we had become our own worst threat.


Furrin_Gok said:
Nah, you went to the stage of acceptance. "Yep. That happened. Nothing I can do will change that, so I may as well just carry on."

It's not so much acceptance as it is apathy. My typical reaction to something terrible I can't prevent or minimize is to focus entirely on it and keep looking for a different option even after I know for a fact it doesn't exist. I don't do acceptance or denial. I zigzag between anger, bartering, and depression. Now, it's not that I've moved on, but that I've stopped moving anywhere at all. Nothing that happens is causing any sort of response from me emotionally, and I have to fake it. Not just with losing a family member, or death in general, but pretty much anything. It's happened before, and it was like being incredibly hungry, but my mind was what hurt from hunger instead of my stomach.


kamimatsu said:
It's not so much acceptance as it is apathy. My typical reaction to something terrible I can't prevent or minimize is to focus entirely on it and keep looking for a different option even after I know for a fact it doesn't exist. I don't do acceptance or denial. I zigzag between anger, bartering, and depression. Now, it's not that I've moved on, but that I've stopped moving anywhere at all. Nothing that happens is causing any sort of response from me emotionally, and I have to fake it. Not just with losing a family member, or death in general, but pretty much anything. It's happened before, and it was like being incredibly hungry, but my mind was what hurt from hunger instead of my stomach.

Not to nag on you but have you thought about seeking help?


kamimatsu said:
It's not so much acceptance as it is apathy. My typical reaction to something terrible I can't prevent or minimize is to focus entirely on it and keep looking for a different option even after I know for a fact it doesn't exist. I don't do acceptance or denial. I zigzag between anger, bartering, and depression. Now, it's not that I've moved on, but that I've stopped moving anywhere at all. Nothing that happens is causing any sort of response from me emotionally, and I have to fake it. Not just with losing a family member, or death in general, but pretty much anything. It's happened before, and it was like being incredibly hungry, but my mind was what hurt from hunger instead of my stomach.

That's still acceptance. You've gone past looking at the individual deaths, to just looking at death in general. It happens, why bother getting bent out of shape over it? May as well carry on with your own thing. Your subconscious has come to recognize it, and dropped the sense of empathy that was only harming you before.

The human mind is capable of doing this in order to protect oneself, and thusly, one's "pack" (family, neighbors, friends). The empathy that you start with means that you will go out of your way to ensure the pack survives, but in rougher times, where the pack is getting picked off, that would be counterproductive, leading to even more losses, so it just gets rid of the empathy in order to allow those who remain to carry on.

Perhaps the greatest problem with this is that it's difficult, if not impossible, to get that empathy back, even if things start going well again. How much of a desire do you still have to prevent the death or cure illnesses before it gets horrible?


Sorrowless said:
Not to nag on you but have you thought about seeking help?

Yes. I actually go for counseling regularly for Depression and self-hatred. I'm not sure what will happen next time, since it took a while to explain initially that my Depression was because I wanted to start living, not stop.


kamimatsu said:
Yes. I actually go for counseling regularly for Depression and self-hatred. I'm not sure what will happen next time, since it took a while to explain initially that my Depression was because I wanted to start living, not stop.

I'm glad you do. Do you by any chance like it? I did. However I don't have much self-hatred and I can see how that would be not so fun to talk about.

Furrin_Gok said:
Perhaps the greatest problem with this is that it's difficult, if not impossible, to get that empathy back, even if things start going well again. How much of a desire do you still have to prevent the death or cure illnesses before it gets horrible?

I have wondered if my subconscious did this self protection, myself. You seem sure about this. Where have you come to learn it?