leomole
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2014 anthro bottle bottomless cat chair clothed clothing computer desk feline fur girly headphones hoodie inside jailbird leaning leaning_back legwear liam looking_at_viewer looking_back male mammal reclining sitting smile socks solo tan_fur

Rating: Safe
Score: 117
User: Onii-chan
Date: May 09, 2014

The new guidelines specify anatomical changes to make a human site-relevant. How about clearly fake animal ears? I think that was allowed under previous guidelines.

Animal body parts make humans site-relevant. How about nonhumans? Do horsecock tentacles count? Is a toaster with car ears relevant to the site?

Thanks for bearing with me exploring the minutiae.


leomole said:
How about clearly fake animal ears?

A human wearing costume items is still a human.

I don't get point of the other questions:

  • Non-humans are already allowed.
  • Tentacles are already allowed.
  • Animate_inanimate is already allowed.

What about humanized?
Canonically furry characters drawn as humans, either to show how they would look like as humans or just for the sake of it.

https://www.furaffinity.net/view/4120280/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/4120313/
(only the furry page is a part of the comic)

https://sakimichan.deviantart.com/art/Nick-n-Judy-637462608

I think it was looked down upon because MLP community abused the crap out of it, but that's a very specific case.
And lots of MLP art actually makes it through the rules with wings or hooves on humans.

https://www.furaffinity.net/view/21713525/

Either way, I think it should be mentioned in the guidelines.


It doesn't matter who the character is or what the character usually is. If it's a pure human in that particular image that image will be deleted. On the other hand if it's a human with hooves or wings it's no longer a pure human and will be allowed like all other humanoid/nekomimi.

Do remember that we treat all images in a vacuum (unless it's a comic or image sequence, those are judged as one for approval or deletion only) as such it absolutely doesn't matter what else there is outside of that image. If it's a pure human it will get deleted, if it's a humanoid with animal traits it will be approved.

leomole said:
The new guidelines specify anatomical changes to make a human site-relevant. How about clearly fake animal ears? I think that was allowed under previous guidelines.

Costumes haven't counted in the past two years, as such nothing changes. Non-humans are what's relevant and the section is supposed to make that clear. Animated objects (including cat-toasters or normal living toasters) are still relevant.

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2013 5_fingers abs anthro athletic canine claws collarbone cute dingo front_view fur gloves_(marking) half-length_portrait holding_arm imiak inner_ear_fluff looking_at_viewer male mammal markings navel nipples nude peachez pecs pink_eyes pink_fur pink_nose portrait pose shy solo tan_fur v-cut

Rating: Safe
Score: 28
User: flux_capacitor
Date: March 02, 2013

Then why was this declared irrelevant? It has a humanoid in the top right corner, a cat in the bottom left corner and an animated object at middle right, three things which are allowed.

leomole
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2014 anthro bottle bottomless cat chair clothed clothing computer desk feline fur girly headphones hoodie inside jailbird leaning leaning_back legwear liam looking_at_viewer looking_back male mammal reclining sitting smile socks solo tan_fur

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Score: 117
User: Onii-chan
Date: May 09, 2014

NotMeNotYou said:
Costumes haven't counted in the past two years

OK thanks.

Wodahseht said:
Animate_inanimate is already allowed.

I mean what if it's literally a toaster with cat ears. Does that make it animate? Because I assume no, it's an inanimate object that won't get approved even if it has cat ears and/or tail.

Also what makes these posts site-relevant? They look human only to me. I think post #1062754 has nonhuman genitalia but the others I don't understand.

Ruku
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7_eyes abstract_background ambiguous_gender anthro belly_scales blue_scales breath chain cold darou digital_media_(artwork) digital_painting_(artwork) dragon furgonomics gauges glowing green_eyes head_tails headshot_portrait humanoid_ears jewelry lips long_mouth long_neck membranous_wings multi_eye necklace outside pendant pointy_ears portrait purple_background scales seasaidh shaded signature simple_background snout snow soft_shading solo wings winter

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Score: 4
User: Darou
Date: November 04, 2017

leomole said:
OK thanks.

I mean what if it's literally a toaster with cat ears. Does that make it animate? Because I assume no, it's an inanimate object that won't get approved even if it has cat ears and/or tail.

Also what makes these posts site-relevant? They look human only to me. I think post #1062754 has nonhuman genitalia but the others I don't understand.

Not sure if that exsample would count since that just seems to be a regular toaster with fake cat ears put on with no life in it but a good fairly good exsample would be living_aircraft...also adding that animal features are not necessarily required, something like this would coant http://www.diszine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/The-Brave-Little-Toaster-300x239.jpg

Concerning that group of images, they kinda fall in the grey area of humanized anthros, in this case my little pony characters that in canon series have been depicted both feral,anthro and human...

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Rating: Safe
Score: 28
User: flux_capacitor
Date: March 02, 2013

Ruku said:
Concerning that group of images, they kinda fall in the grey area of humanized anthros, in this case my little pony characters that in canon series have been depicted both feral,anthro and human...

I would've thought they'd count as discoloured humans which isn't allowed (a different skin color does not make a human relevant), except for the charizard one which looks like a human in a costume. Also, wouldn't EG version of MLP characters fall into the discoloured human category since they are canonically human?

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Rating: Safe
Score: 4
User: Darou
Date: November 04, 2017

BlueDingo said:
I would've thought they'd count as discoloured humans which isn't allowed (a different skin color does not make a human relevant), except for the charizard one which looks like a human in a costume.

Not if they are from a series where they are naturally feral, then it counts as humanized but as said before my little pony has been human in canon on their most recent spin off so this franchise is rather tricky as is probly why no one bothered with those. Note that this is what I take the rules as, would still wait for staff to verify^^


leomole said:
I mean what if it's literally a toaster with cat ears. Does that make it animate? Because I assume no, it's an inanimate object that won't get approved even if it has cat ears and/or tail.

NotMeNotYou said:
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Animated objects (including cat-toasters or normal living toasters) are still relevant.

If it's a literal toaster with cat ears taped to it or a cat-face drawn on it it's irrelevant. If it's a living toaster (as in Disney's Beauty and the Beast kind of living toaster) it's relevant.

leomole said:
Also what makes these posts site-relevant? They look human only to me. I think post #1062754 has nonhuman genitalia but the others I don't understand.

These shouldn't have been approved. They're brightly colored humans thus irrelevant.

leomole
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2014 anthro bottle bottomless cat chair clothed clothing computer desk feline fur girly headphones hoodie inside jailbird leaning leaning_back legwear liam looking_at_viewer looking_back male mammal reclining sitting smile socks solo tan_fur

Rating: Safe
Score: 117
User: Onii-chan
Date: May 09, 2014

Thanks for clarifying, I understand it now.

NotMeNotYou said:
These shouldn't have been approved. They're brightly colored humans thus irrelevant.

Is there a way to flag these posts for deletion?


leomole said:
Is there a way to flag these posts for deletion?

NMNY already cleared those specific ones. But if you mean in general, I'd personally recommend first step being to send message to approver pointing out posts and why you think there was a mistake...we all make them, especially if in a rush or trying to clear out a lot of pending images. Just be polite, please?

Definitely shouldn't flag if reason isn't one of the listed reasons though...that just confuses things since janitor/admin reviewing is usually looking specifically for the issue flagged - and can end up with someone trying to point out a valid issue getting in trouble for misuse of site tools. :/


leomole said:
Is there a way to flag these posts for deletion?

You aren't allowed to flag for relevancy. As Wodahseht said, contact the janitor in question or alternatively any of the admins.

leomole
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2014 anthro bottle bottomless cat chair clothed clothing computer desk feline fur girly headphones hoodie inside jailbird leaning leaning_back legwear liam looking_at_viewer looking_back male mammal reclining sitting smile socks solo tan_fur

Rating: Safe
Score: 117
User: Onii-chan
Date: May 09, 2014

Wodahseht said:
send message to approver pointing out posts and why you think there was a mistake

NotMeNotYou said:
contact the janitor in question or alternatively any of the admins.

Okay, mistakes are rare but now I know what to do, thanks.


And another update.

This time a section about ads has been added.

Advertisements:

Acceptable ads are those with artistic and entertainment value that far outweigh their nature to sell goods or services. Ads that only advertise goods and services are not acceptable and the uploader or artist will need to purchase advertisement space here instead.

  • YCH auctions, censored patreon images, or other censored paysite previews are almost always unacceptable, thus expect these to get deleted
    • advertising your patreon or paysite in form of a signature on any given image is perfectly fine
    • advertising your patreon or paysite in the description of art you have created / commissioned is also perfectly fine

This is still somewhat under construction, so if you have any feedback (especially on the wording) it'd be greatly appreciated.


NotMeNotYou said:
This is still somewhat under construction, so if you have any feedback (especially on the wording) it'd be greatly appreciated.

The new section for advertisements seems perfectly fine.

However, I believe that the overall guidelines could be more effective with visual examples of 'acceptable' and 'unacceptable' images to help clarify the differences for new users. Including these examples on the uploading guidelines page itself may produce unnecessary clutter, a link to a wiki entry of "uploading guidelines: visual examples", or something similar, would be better.

On the topic of guidelines and the wiki, I think something should be do to make forum #169987 (currently linked in the howto:source page) easier to find. Even though I know about it, I often have trouble finding it. I think that adding a link to it in the uploading guidelines would also be very helpful.


NotMeNotYou said:

PSA: I just updated this.

Link

Notable additions:

  • Quality standards at the bottom
  • spiel at the top that the DNP List and Posting Abuse are complementary to the guidelines and need to be minded as well
  • spiel about old submissions and that we won't judge them under current standards
  • spiel about humans, fancy humans, and human non-humans ("gems", zombies, ghosts, etc.)

I know this was 4 months ago but could you please clarify about the steven universe thing? Are the considered human now?


ThatOneNerd said:
I know this was 4 months ago but could you please clarify about the steven universe thing? Are the considered human now?

Any character that visually appears as a human (even if a brightly colored human) will be considered human for the purpose of the uploading guidelines.
This means that as long as those Steven Universe gems look like brightly colored humans they are not relevant enough to stay. If they have visible anatomical features that separate them further from humans than their skin color does then they will become more relevant and might be allowed on their own.


Ok thanks!
(somehow I didn't expect you to respond)


ThatOneNerd said:
I know this was 4 months ago but could you please clarify about the steven universe thing? Are the considered human now?

Here are some examples of steven universe posts I would find relevant:

2017 alien cartoon_network crossover florges fusion gem_(species) hair hi_res itoruna nintendo pokémon pokémon_(species) rainbow_quartz_(steven_universe) rose_quartz_(steven_universe) shiny_pokémon smile solo steven_universe video_games

Rating: Safe
Score: 1
User: Itoruna
Date: February 26, 2017 alien anthro blonde_hair blue_eyes blue_hair breasts butt callie_briggs car cartoon_network cat crossover dialogue english_text eyewear fangs feline female forehead_gem gem_(species) glasses green_eyes group hair half-closed_eyes humanoid inside_car inside_out jasinator joy_(inside_out) mammal monster_girl_(genre) open_mouth pearl_(steven_universe) pink_hair reaction_image signature size_difference smile speech_bubble steven_universe swat_kats sweat text vehicle yellow_body

Rating: Safe
Score: 17
User: ROTHY
Date: February 04, 2017 2017 3_toes 4_fingers anthro barefoot blue_hair brown_fur canine cartoon_network clothed clothing crossover dipstick_ears dipstick_tail disney dress duo english_text female fox fur fusion garnet_(steven_universe) gloves_(marking) green_eyes hair hi_res kneeling looking_back male mammal markings monster_girl_(genre) multi_eye multicolored_fur multicolored_hair multicolored_tail necktie nick_wilde open_mouth orange_fur pants pink_hair purple_eyes red_eyes shirt simple_background skeletonguys-and-ragdolls speech_bubble standing steven_universe text toes two_tone_fur two_tone_hair zootopia

Rating: Safe
Score: 11
User: Rysaerio-Misoery
Date: January 04, 2017 amethyst_(steven_universe) analostan anthro avian beak bike_shorts bird black_hair blue_eyes canine cartoon_network clothed clothing duck fangs female footwear fully_clothed fur garnet_(steven_universe) group hair hand_behind_head hands_on_hips heterochromia inner_ear_fluff legwear long_hair mammal multi_eye pants pearl_(steven_universe) pose purple_eyes purple_fur red_eyes shirt shoes short_hair shorts slit_pupils socks standing steven_universe tank_top white_hair wide_hips

Rating: Safe
Score: 9
User: Acolyte
Date: January 02, 2017 2016 ambiguous_gender cartoon_network gengar hi_res itoruna looking_at_viewer midriff nintendo not_furry pokémon pokémon_(species) smile smoky_quartz_(steven_universe) solo steven_universe video_games yoyo

Rating: Safe
Score: 4
User: Itoruna
Date: December 29, 2016


If the only way a photograph will be accepted is if it's "So good it looks like it was taken by a scanner anyways," why even mention photogrpahs being allowed?

Sure, a single extra image being deleted over this at worst is going to up my deleted count to the fourth needed to lower my upload limit from a whopping 72 to a still whopping 71, big whoop, but still, if I could know before hand that it's going to be deleted, I could save us all some time and effort by just not uploading it. Some users may be clinging onto that hope of reaching a limit of eleven, only to drop instead to nine.


Furrin_Gok said:
If the only way a photograph will be accepted is if it's "So good it looks like it was taken by a scanner anyways," why even mention photogrpahs being allowed?

Sure, a single extra image being deleted over this at worst is going to up my deleted count to the fourth needed to lower my upload limit from a whopping 72 to a still whopping 71, big whoop, but still, if I could know before hand that it's going to be deleted, I could save us all some time and effort by just not uploading it. Some users may be clinging onto that hope of reaching a limit of eleven, only to drop instead to nine.

A good enough camera will set you back about $200 and the lighting requirements can be achieved by either having a clear day or investing into some basic LEDs.
"Impeccable" quality does not mean unachievable, it's just not able to be done by a phone under someone's dimmed kitchen lights.


A low end flatbed scanner is a better idea, setting you back $60-80 retail, maybe $30-40 on sale, or free since people throw out printers with attached scanners.

http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/the-best-cheap-scanner/
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2373832,00.asp

I imagine if you already had a phone with a good camera, as they are getting better every year, then you could buy two clamp light fixtures for $8-10, a 2 pack of daylight LED bulbs for $4-10, and some kind of smartphone tripod for $10.


New Update: Addition of a small elaboration of edits and bases under Quality, as well as a small addition of auctions under bad things to upload.

  • Advertisements: Low quality ads or ads without artistic value
    • If the image has only a small part of it advertising something (like a footer with the patreon link) then it is very much welcome here
    • Adoptables/character auctions, YCH auctions, or any other types ads for auctions are not permitted

Edits

  • edits of images need to be at least on the same level of quality as the original
    • low effort edits (adding stories, changing text, bucket fill coloring, cutting out parts, etc) are not allowed
    • Translating speech bubbles from any language into english is permitted, however.
      • We only accept an english translation and the original language, we will not host additional translations
  • Coloring "bases" (template images) are not permitted if they haven't been performed by the original artist of the base
    • we will only accept up to 5 version of any given base

NotMeNotYou said:
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*versions


fewrahuxo said:
*versions

FUCKixed.