I just made a wiki page for covering_chest and I'm wondering whether it and covering_breasts should be combined since the only difference between them is whether or not breasts are present.


BlueDingo said:
I just made a wiki page for covering_chest and I'm wondering whether it and covering_breasts should be combined since the only difference between them is whether or not breasts are present.

Interesting. I would've assumed the *_breasts version was already aliased to *_chest...

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BlueDingo said:
I just made a wiki page for covering_chest and I'm wondering whether it and covering_breasts should be combined since the only difference between them is whether or not breasts are present.

To have specific tags for acts of covering the face or body parts with sexual conotation seems ok, but covering chest... I don't know. If we keep this tag, the wiki will need clarification; Does a character with the arms crossed counts as "covering chest"?


If I may ask a question on a bit of the stranger end. Not too sure where to actually ask this.

Are there tags for handling what specific computer or console type that artwork is designed to be displayed on?

Or are instances of pixel art being designed for a specific machine in mind being submitted to the gallery so rare, that it isn't worth making note of?


O16 said:
To have specific tags for acts of covering the face or body parts with sexual conotation seems ok, but covering chest... I don't know. If we keep this tag, the wiki will need clarification; Does a character with the arms crossed counts as "covering chest"?

Depends. Does it count for covering_breasts?

Arms usually cross below the chest, not over it.

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BlueDingo said:
Depends. Does it count for covering_breasts?

1st) unsure
2nd) yes

BlueDingo said:
Arms usually cross below the chest, not over it.

It seems to happens in 1/4 to 1/3 of the times.


Flygon said:
If I may ask a question on a bit of the stranger end. Not too sure where to actually ask this.

Are there tags for handling what specific computer or console type that artwork is designed to be displayed on?

Or are instances of pixel art being designed for a specific machine in mind being submitted to the gallery so rare, that it isn't worth making note of?

I would like to be able to tag specific consoles and such.


Flygon said:
If I may ask a question on a bit of the stranger end. Not too sure where to actually ask this.

Are there tags for handling what specific computer or console type that artwork is designed to be displayed on?

Or are instances of pixel art being designed for a specific machine in mind being submitted to the gallery so rare, that it isn't worth making note of?

Is it worth telling the difference between a Genesis sprite and an SNES sprite? Both look the same if you don't know what the difference is.

To do this properly, you'd have to know the exact capabilities of just about every sprite-based console and run the color picker over all the pixels just to tell which console it's for. Not worth it, in my opinion.

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I think the "central focus" part of the muscular wiki may need to be removed. If the muscular tag is only meant to apply when a character's muscularness (is that even a word?) is the focus of the image then what tag do you use when it isn't?

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BlueDingo said:
Is it worth telling the difference between a Genesis sprite and an SNES sprite? Both look the same if you don't know what the difference is.

To do this properly, you'd have to know the exact capabilities of just about every sprite-based console and run the color picker over all the pixels just to tell which console it's for. Not worth it, in my opinion.

I actually had more in mind things such as 8-bit Micros and Consoles. Huge differences in art style variation between C64, CPC, Atari 8-bit, SMS, NES, anything TMS99-series based.

Things such as aspect ratio, overall available palette... it's a fascinating mess.

But as I did lampshade, such pixel artwork being posted frequently enough to e621 would certainly be rather rare. Even if it would be neat trivia for users to see what machine a particular image was drawn for.


Flygon said:
I actually had more in mind things such as 8-bit Micros and Consoles. Huge differences in art style variation between C64, CPC, Atari 8-bit, SMS, NES, anything TMS99-series based.

Things such as aspect ratio, overall available palette... it's a fascinating mess.

But as I did lampshade, such pixel artwork being posted frequently enough to e621 would certainly be rather rare. Even if it would be neat trivia for users to see what machine a particular image was drawn for.

We could try something like tagging the color depth, palette size or approximate it to console type (eg. 8-bit). Exact console would be too difficult if it's not a full screenshot (and even then, many consoles can display multiple resolutions and aspect ratios) and some consoles can display sprites the same way (eg. the SNES format (4bpp 15-bit BGR palette) is also used on the N64, GBA and DS, meaning all 4 can display the same sprites).

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BlueDingo said:

I think the "central focus" part of the muscular wiki may need to be removed. If the muscular tag is only meant to apply when a character's muscularness (is that even a word?) is the focus of the image then what tag do you use when it isn't?

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Seems reasonable (I wonder how I never noticed that excerpt before).


I wanted to ask, would it be possible to add to the wiki of boss_monster that being a boss and a Monster don't automatically make something a Boss Monster? I'm seeing it get tagged on images with just a regular Monster that just happens to be a major fight, but is not a Boss Monster. I know the wiki describes Boss Monsters, but it doesn't seem to be stopping people from tagging anything with an important fight. Could there just be something making sure to note that "boss" + "Monster" =/= "boss monster"?

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That is the common usage of 'boss monster', so I'm not surprised that some users tag it that way. Might need to disambiguate it and move the Undertale ones under species boss_monster_(undertale).


I thought boss_monster was only used for Undertale images. Searching boss_monster -undertale returns nothing.

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kamimatsu said:
I wanted to ask, would it be possible to add to the wiki of boss_monster that being a boss and a Monster don't automatically make something a Boss Monster? I'm seeing it get tagged on images with just a regular Monster that just happens to be a major fight, but is not a Boss Monster. I know the wiki describes Boss Monsters, but it doesn't seem to be stopping people from tagging anything with an important fight. Could there just be something making sure to note that "boss" + "Monster" =/= "boss monster"?

I suggest to highlight in red the following excerpt "There are currently three known Boss Monsters: Toriel, Asgore, and their son, Asriel" (extracted from "boss_monster" wiki).

BlueDingo said:
Searching boss_monster -undertale returns nothing.

That is because "boss_monster" implies "undertale".


What's the proper way to tag A x B hybrids? "A B hybrid"? What if there's a common name for the hybrid, like mule or liger? "liger lion tiger hybrid", "liger hybrid", "lion tiger hybrid"?

The usage seems to be all over the place. Like mule is alised to "donkey" and often not tagged hybrid at all.

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hslugs said:
What's the proper way to tag A x B hybrids? "A B hybrid"?

I believe it is "A B hybrid".

hslugs said:
What if there's a common name for the hybrid, like mule or liger? "liger lion tiger hybrid", "liger hybrid", "lion tiger hybrid"?

As far as I know, the hybrid's name is suposed to imply both species that compose it plus "hybrid"; however many of these implications apparently are missing.

About mule and donkey, I simply don't know what would justify that alias, the "little" phenotypic difference between the two maybe.