HotUnderTheCollar said:
Maybe we could organize some kind of mass-tagging project in which we focus on a specific tag and inflate it all over e621 on relevant images?

Also, shouldn't triangle position imply threesome? It can only be done with 3 or more characters.

*shrugs* Not all tags are easy to find relevant pics for. Also implications have to be proposed and approved separately.

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Circeus said:
*shrugs* Not all tags are easy to find relevant pics for. Also implications have to be proposed and approved separately.

I honestly wouldn't mind the idea of an organized tagging adventure.

So, just suggest an implication under the tab Tags? Even though I've been creating quite some forum posts lately :#


HotUnderTheCollar said:
So, just suggest an implication under the tab Tags? Even though I've been creating quite some forum posts lately :#

Yup

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HotUnderTheCollar said:
Maybe we could organize some kind of mass-tagging project in which we focus on a specific tag and inflate it all over e621 on relevant images?

Also, shouldn't triangle position imply threesome? It can only be done with 3 or more characters.

I'd say group_sex would probably be better.

Edit: I replied to forum #182685 about this

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I added a couple of tags while sorting the various holding and carrying tags. Lifted_by_arms, lifted_by_tail and lifted_by_ears. Not sure if those are worth keeping, but if we're going to sort out lifting someday to more specific tags... it might be good to have some subtags ready.

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Another new position tag: prison_guard_position. ...that one wasn't added by me, but I'm certainly going to start using it. The name is a bit crude, but it is well-known (on porn sites, at least). And the position itself is common, so it's good to have a tag for it.

(Suggested implications: from_behind and arm_grab. Standing might also apply.)


Something I personally think is worth keeping track of is tentacle_masturbation, where a tentacle'd character uses said tentacles to masturbate themselves. It's similar to consentacles, only with solo.

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How about a new tag for large orgies? Here's a set of what it'd look like: set #3376.

Could be called mass_orgy. What do you think, would that be a worthwhile addition?

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Genjar said:
How about a new tag for large orgies? Here's a set of what it'd look like: set #3376.

Could be called mass_orgy. What do you think, would that be a worthwhile addition?

Huh, I could have sworn that tag already existed.

I guess that means +1 from me :P


(This is probably (very) complicated-enough to warrant its own discussion, but I'll put part of it in here first. Will update this post with the relevant links when they're made)
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We don't really have any tags for specific gender x gender character art style stuff, in the format:

[gender1] [style1] * [gender2] [style2]

where * is some conjunctive character(s), like '/' or 'on'

An example:

male_anthro/female_feral
or
male_anthro_on_female_feral

which is a detailed form of:

anthro on feral or anthro / feral

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Notes for the lists included here for reference

▼ Notes1:

* These gender names (the intersex ones) are probably temporary, and are just placeholders for this post to give an idea of the number of possibilities/combinations.

See forum #140749 for more info

** The semi-anthro tag is included here mostly for completion's sake. There's been some discussion about semi-anthro, and based on what's been said so far, it seems to be the general consensus that the name, 'semi-anthro' isn't descriptive/unambiguous enough

See forum # for more info

▼ Notes2:
  • Everything is sorted alphabetically. This means all genders and styles
  • Some combinations are listed commutatively , for the sake of simplicity. This means that A x B is the same as B x A.

eg1 anthro x feral is the same as feral x anthro
eg2 herm x maleherm is the same as maleherm x herm
eg3 anthro_female x feral_herm the same thing as feral_herm x anthro_female

For non-commutative combinations, A x B is the same as B x A.

eg2b herm x maleherm is not the same as maleherm x herm

  • The combination alphabetically-lower on the list is omitted [eg1b feral x anthro is omitted]
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The sex position discussions reminded me of something.
Would anyone object to bridge_position, for posts such as...

?

We don't already have a tag for that position, or do we? If there is, I can't find it.

The name might be slightly problematic. Several other positions are occasionally called bridge position, including what we tag as arch_position. So I'm not certain that it'd be tagged consistently. Also, I'm not sure if it's common enough to warrant tagging. I remember seeing a few, but definitely not more than twenty or so.

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That is ... very specific. I've never seen it before. I'm not sure it warrants a new tag; we could just call it a modified cowgirl and include bridge_(exercise) or bridge_(posture).


leomole said:
That is ... very specific. I've never seen it before. I'm not sure it warrants a new tag; we could just call it a modified cowgirl and include bridge_(exercise) or bridge_(posture).

It might not be too common, but I'll give my +1 to Position.

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leomole said:
That is ... very specific. I've never seen it before.

It is from Kama Sutra. And often found on sex position lists as an example of advanced position that probably shouldn't be actually tried.

But yes, it's pretty rare on this site, and tough to search for. I know that there's more out there, but I can't figure out any way to find them. Maybe I'll just add that one to a set for now, and then create the tag once I actually locate more.


Genjar said:
The sex position discussions reminded me of something.
Would anyone object to bridge_position, for posts such as...

I'm at least 90% sure there's an officially recognized name for it

this contemporary KS article also calls it the Bridge [external link]

..which looks almost identical to Genjar's eg, coincidentally


titanmelon said:
I'm at least 90% sure there's an officially recognized name for it

this contemporary KS article also calls it the Bridge [external link]

..which looks almost identical to Genjar's eg, coincidentally

Since we use _position for our positions, the_bridge becomes bridge_position, like Genjar suggested.


Furrin_Gok said:
Since we use _position for our positions, the_bridge becomes bridge_position, like Genjar suggested.

Yeah, sounds good

If/when it's populated, I'll add it to the positions page


Got a lot more to say about this, but for now:

▼ Long version

Do we have a tag for a feral/anthro character with a humanoid penis? or animal genitalia for that matter?

[examples here]

Common eg:

Anthro characters can be drawn with either human genitals, or animal/non-human ones

Whe have the humanoid_[organ] tags like humanoid_penis and humanoid_vagina humanoid_pussy,

And we have the whole list of [animal]_* tags

So what single tag do we use to identify it?

Searching for {{humanoid_* anthro}} works because its the most common case, but what about `animal_* anthro?

you can't identify specific instances of the genitalia on characters

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Another case is blacklisting

Let's say someone doesn't want to see human penises on feral characters

  • They add feral humanoid_penis on a line

or maybe

  • feral -anatomically_correct

or even

  • feral -animal_genitalia

if they're desperate

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In all 3 cases, all feral/human posts are now blacklisted, as well as any anthro/feral posts where the anthro has a humanoid penis. So if that was their fetish, too bad

Short Version

My suggestion:

A tag that identifies both body type (feral, human, anthro etc), and what category of genitalia they have (humanoid, animal, alien etc)

E.g.

  • anthro*humanoid_penis
  • feral*animal_penis
  • human*humanoid_penis
  • alien*alien_penis
  • anthro*humanoid_pussy
  • feral*animal_pussy
  • human*humanoid_pussy
  • alien*alien_pussy

Where * is some conjoiner such as 'with, or even just '_'

  • anthro_humanoid_penis
  • anthro_with_humanoid_penis
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Another more elegant solution is character-based tagging. It's much harder to implement but it would solve this problem and many more besides.


I should really have titled this "new tag announcements" *sigh*.


Circeus said:
I should really have titled this "new tag announcements" *sigh*.

To put us back on topic: It's actually been out there for a few months now but for those who hadn't noticed, someone created the tongue_taco tag after some discussion on this post:

I'm a fan of the theme, but I really haven't noticed (and keep forgetting to look for) much in the way of posts that would apply ever since that post above (and it's variants) coined the term; The current tag count comes in at a staggering nine. Could eventually be a nifty tag though if people keep their eyes out for it.... Though I do think it has the potential for some theme-drift into normal penis_lick territory if people tag things without sufficient taco-ness. Two of the currently tagged posts are already pretty borderline in that department, so I would say if you go to tag posts for this, keep it less like these two:

...And more like the following two as well as the first thumb in this post :


Circeus said:
I should really have titled this "new tag announcements" *sigh*.

You still can change the OP title btw

Creating this thread as a simple way to signal/advertise recently created "missing" tags, since updating the wiki is not always needed and few people check it for updates anyway.

About to do that, but putting it in here as an easy reference first

Should I make a separate topic for non-existing tag suggestions instead?

This one could be used purely for low-count/newly-existing ones

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leomole said:
Another more elegant solution is character-based tagging.

I agree, but like you said, that's been in the works for at least 73 years now [citation needed]

The above is a quasi-temporary, immediately-impementable solution that's (supposedly)consistent with existing structures


I'm a fan of the theme, but I really haven't noticed (and keep forgetting to look for) much in the way of posts that would apply ever since that post above (and it's variants) coined the term

; The current tag count comes in at a staggering nine. Could eventually be a nifty tag though if people keep their eyes out for it.... .

imo, the entire point of creating new tags/terms is for a couple of common reasons:

  • An existing tag doesn't exist
    • An existing tag isn't commonly-used enough to be known

In the latter case, when the existing one becomes more known, the newer one can always be aliased to it

In the former case, there's no way to neatly find/identify/blacklist/other the phenomena,
so I would go so far as to say that it is because there are so few possible examples, that a new one should be made: to easily keep track of it

I have some discussion planned about the temporal state of tags on e6,

▼ Click to collapse
  • A range of states such as:
    • commonly-established [male, female],
    • newly-established
      • newly-established + major populated, [???]
      • newly-established + semi-minor-populated, [semi-anthro]
      • newly-established + minor-populated, [tongue_taco]
    • non-existent [yuhyeuadtw]
    • etc.

    but it's still a WIP

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    Though I do think it has the potential for some theme-drift into normal penis_lick territory

    Well, you can lick an ice-cream cone (vertically), but you probably don't want to wrap your tongue around it and then shove it in your mouth (horizontally)

    penis_lick sound like it could be a parent tag instead, depending on how much overlap (hah, wordplay) there is

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    'if people tag things without sufficient taco-ness'
    hue


    Until Circeus responds about the new tag discussion thing, an addition to the above:

    anatomically correct anthro posts are relatively uncommon compared to anthros with humanoid genitalia, so what about a tag for those?

    anatomically_correct_anthro


    titanmelon said:
    Until Circeus responds about the new tag discussion thing, an addition to the above:

    anatomically correct anthro posts are relatively uncommon compared to anthros with humanoid genitalia, so what about a tag for those?

    anatomically_correct_anthro

    Seems kind of unnecessary to be honest, because you could probably get what you want by just searching both the anthro and anatomically_correct tag at the same time. That should work for pretty much every solo picture for sure. With group pictures you'll still probably get much of what you intended, but you'll probably end up with some non-anatomical anthros with anatomical ferals, etc that'd you have to filter with additional tagging or manually filter in the thumbnails.

    With those group shots, the added utility of the more explicit tag allowing you to ensure that the anatomically-correct character in the scene is an anthro instead of a feral/whatever enters again into that tag-grouping/linked-tag/character-tagging territory. It's probably not worth further trying to press into that for minor cases like this and better to wait for an actual full system like that to be implemented.

    Otherwise, we end up with needing to do an "anatomically_correct_<insertFormHere>" here setup for consistency... Then, people might start trying to also do species, genders, etc until we end up with 50 new anatomically_correct_<whatever> tags to maintain. I think that might kind of end up being worse to deal with than not-having it at all.


    Crispix said:
    It's probably not worth further trying to press into that for minor cases like this and better to wait for an actual full system like that to be implemented.

    Otherwise, we end up with needing to do an "anatomically_correct_<insertFormHere>" here setup for consistency... Then, people might start trying to also do species, genders, etc until we end up with 50 new anatomically_correct_<whatever> tags to maintain. I think that might kind of end up being worse to deal with than not-having it at all.

    Sigh

    You might be right about that. This is probably the same thing Genjar was saying in forum #184972 about further differentiating flora_fauna into plants and animals
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    On a somewhat unrelated note, I've been trying to blacklist anthro/feral posts with humanoid genitals for literally years, but no solution has been found without breaking other searches, because the necessary tags don't exist to do it, or the blacklist combination doesn't do what intended

    Seems like this is gonna be a case of dealwithit.jpg


    titanmelon said:
    Sigh

    You might be right about that. This is probably the same thing Genjar was saying in forum #184972 about further differentiating flora_fauna into plants and animals
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    On a somewhat unrelated note, I've been trying to blacklist anthro/feral posts with humanoid genitals for literally years, but no solution has been found without breaking other searches, because the necessary tags don't exist to do it, or the blacklist combination doesn't do what intended

    Seems like this is gonna be a case of dealwithit.jpg

    Yeah, there's definitely a consistent weakness with the current system in that it can't handle those finely granular levels of detail without having an arbitrarily large quantity of specific tags to cover every situation that comes up, and if you get too deep down that hole you'd end up with a system that is some combination of unusable, untaggable, and unmoderatable.

    However, on the topic of your attempt to blacklist: What exactly are you trying to achieve and what is breaking when you try? You're trying not to see any post that has an anthro or feral with humanoid genitals? I'm assuming there's some conditions under which you think it's acceptable to have them in the pic or you would just blacklist the whole tag; What conditions would those be? Just like, if it's an actual human/humanoid that has them?

    If that's the case, is there any reason blacklisting something like ~humanoid_penis ~humanoid_pussy -human -humanoid wouldn't catch the vast majority? I mean you'd still end up seeing any posts that happen to both have humans or humanoids in addition to a feral/anthro with humanoid bits, but it should still catch a whole lot of the rest of em.


    titanmelon said:
    On a somewhat unrelated note, I've been trying to blacklist anthro/feral posts with humanoid genitals for literally years, but no solution has been found without breaking other searches, because the necessary tags don't exist to do it, or the blacklist combination doesn't do what intended

    You have at least blacklisted ~anthro ~feral solo humanoid_penis right? Gets rid of the solo ones.

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    titanmelon said:
    Sigh

    You might be right about that. This is probably the same thing Genjar was saying in forum #184972 about further differentiating flora_fauna into plants and animals
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    On a somewhat unrelated note, I've been trying to blacklist anthro/feral posts with humanoid genitals for literally years, but no solution has been found without breaking other searches, because the necessary tags don't exist to do it, or the blacklist combination doesn't do what intended

    Seems like this is gonna be a case of dealwithit.jpg

    humanoid_penis exists, and as of recently so does humanoid_pussy (it's not very widely tagged though). Blacklisting humanoid_penis -human -humanoid might work reasonably well.

    Other than that, I think blacklisting -animal_genitalia would be the second closest, but you'd probably have to combine it with something to be practical.